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VOCODER TALK

Post by Needs2Know » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:49 am

I'm looking for a way to alter human voice. I was thinking of a Sherman Filter Bank to talk into via a condenser mic. But now I'm thinking what if there's a filter or software thing out there that can do the same thing. Does the Virus TI have this ability?

BTW I recently posted a topic about "Wave Editors" and got alot of good info from all you guys, thanks. I ended up with the Audacity because its cross platform and free.
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Post by Machinate » Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:08 am

The Sherman Filter Bank isn't a vocoder. It's a regular filter. And yes, the Virus TI does filtering too, and there are also tons of free vst filter plugins out there.
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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:22 am

check out steinberg orange vocoder

native instruments also makes one.

I like sugar bytes robotronic.

I'm sure there are others. but that should be enough for you to play with.
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Post by Needs2Know » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:52 am

yeh i know the sherman is not a vocoder but im looking for a way to "ALTER HUMAN VOICE" weither it be by filter or vocoder. wouldnt a filter produce similar results? I mean, the FB sends in carrier waves which completly change and add to the sound right? Whats the difference?

My roommate is letting me use his ZOOM 1204 Vocoder. Just tried it out for the first time and was pleasently supprised at what the thing could do to my voice.

Anyone heard of the Orange Vocoder?
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Post by The Phat Conductor » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:42 pm

mda talkbox is a very simple vocoder that you can use live and it's free.
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Post by Machinate » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:16 pm

Needs2Know wrote:yeh i know the sherman is not a vocoder but im looking for a way to "ALTER HUMAN VOICE" weither it be by filter or vocoder. wouldnt a filter produce similar results?
No. Not really... And if you're looking for an effect to alter your voice, then I could counter with "which effects *don't* alter the voice?*
Needs2Know wrote:I mean, the FB sends in carrier waves which completly change and add to the sound right? Whats the difference?
The filterBank does not "send in carrier waves"... It does AM and extreme filtering, but nothing like a vocoder. Now, a vocoder might have a filter in it, but that's a different story.


* hehe, the "no-pass filter"
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Post by kennerb » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:16 pm

I picked up an electrix warp factory for $50 and love it. It's hardware, midi assignable, and has it's own internal synth.

http://www.electrixpro.com/products/warpfactory.html
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Post by lapax » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:36 pm

Anyone know what vocoder is used in Cher's - Believe in Love track?
Thanks.

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Post by Machinate » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:38 pm

lapax wrote:Anyone know what vocoder is used in Cher's - Believe in Love track?
Thanks.
It's not a vocoder. It's Antares Autotune.
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Post by ILTK » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:43 pm

Machinate wrote:
lapax wrote:Anyone know what vocoder is used in Cher's - Believe in Love track?
Thanks.
It's not a vocoder. It's Antares Autotune.
Autotune makes me want to break stuff, I remember after she came out with that track and everyone used it for no other reason than 'me to' syndrome, like whole songs with that damn yoodling effect, so damn cheesy.

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Post by lapax » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:46 pm

So this is a VST plugin? Can one use this with Reason or Ableton or is it compatible with just a particular software package?

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Post by Machinate » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:05 pm

ILTK wrote:
Machinate wrote:
lapax wrote:Anyone know what vocoder is used in Cher's - Believe in Love track?
Thanks.
It's not a vocoder. It's Antares Autotune.
Autotune makes me want to break stuff,
yeah, for a while I thought that was the intended purpose of the effect - to start riots...
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Post by Machinate » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:05 pm

lapax wrote:So this is a VST plugin? Can one use this with Reason or Ableton or is it compatible with just a particular software package?
Google is your friend...
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