MIDI Looping - Some MIDI notes not playing in a clip
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:42 am
Hi all,
I use LIVE primarily in live performance as a looper right now and I've recently discovered the virtues of looping MIDI Clips on the fly instead of looping Audio Clips. The MIDI Clips target soft synths (mostly Reason). I'm having fun exploring this method as now I can take advantage of tweaking the parameters on the synths in real time after the loop is recorded - fun & satisfying. Of course all the audio effects are still available, too!
There is one problem I've encountered with looping MIDI, that I hope someone could help me with...
An example - Let's say I play a chord right on the downbeat of a new MIDI Clip being recorded. If I play any MIDI notes even the teensiest bit before the start of recording (clip record is quantized to ONE BAR, btw), the heads of those notes land before the start of the loop (in Bar -1) and the notes will not be played again when recording stops & looping begins. Every time the loop comes back to it's start we don't hear that first chord!
This seems to be standard in traditional MIDI sequencers (i.e., MIDI notes don't play at all unless playback goes across the heads of the notes), but LIVE is not a traditional sequencer! Especially with LIVE's non-linear, looping way of working it would be valuable to have these notes play, even though we're not triggering them from the beginning.
Basically I'm looking for a workaround or something I've missed in order to transfer my live performance method to looping MIDI instead of Audio. So, is there any way anyone can think of to get LIVE to trigger all MIDI notes that fall across the start of a clip, even if their heads are not at the start? Perhaps another way of looping MIDI so that this problem doesn't arise?
I use LIVE primarily in live performance as a looper right now and I've recently discovered the virtues of looping MIDI Clips on the fly instead of looping Audio Clips. The MIDI Clips target soft synths (mostly Reason). I'm having fun exploring this method as now I can take advantage of tweaking the parameters on the synths in real time after the loop is recorded - fun & satisfying. Of course all the audio effects are still available, too!
There is one problem I've encountered with looping MIDI, that I hope someone could help me with...
An example - Let's say I play a chord right on the downbeat of a new MIDI Clip being recorded. If I play any MIDI notes even the teensiest bit before the start of recording (clip record is quantized to ONE BAR, btw), the heads of those notes land before the start of the loop (in Bar -1) and the notes will not be played again when recording stops & looping begins. Every time the loop comes back to it's start we don't hear that first chord!
This seems to be standard in traditional MIDI sequencers (i.e., MIDI notes don't play at all unless playback goes across the heads of the notes), but LIVE is not a traditional sequencer! Especially with LIVE's non-linear, looping way of working it would be valuable to have these notes play, even though we're not triggering them from the beginning.
Basically I'm looking for a workaround or something I've missed in order to transfer my live performance method to looping MIDI instead of Audio. So, is there any way anyone can think of to get LIVE to trigger all MIDI notes that fall across the start of a clip, even if their heads are not at the start? Perhaps another way of looping MIDI so that this problem doesn't arise?