ableton's unfair copy protection system
amen break
another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
if you are so comfortable with your copy protection system,
why not post
a warning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ing_ing_ng_ng_ng_g_g_g_g_
with complete details of the system,
your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your
hours of operation,
expiration of online unlocks,
and the possible problems
this might cause the
many customers who drop $500
on your product.
you should post all this right next to all the
* * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * **
* * * * ** wonderful * * * * * *
* * * * ** * * * * * * * ** * * *
things ableton live does.
or do you feel like this would cost you customers?
i think it would.
i would have not bought this product with a warning like that.
i 've contacted my my state representitive about a required warning.
hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell,
if you can put warning stickers
o
n
a
r
t
, why not make it required to educate people about copy protection.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
if you are so comfortable with your copy protection system,
why not post
a warning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ing_ing_ng_ng_ng_g_g_g_g_
with complete details of the system,
your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your
hours of operation,
expiration of online unlocks,
and the possible problems
this might cause the
many customers who drop $500
on your product.
you should post all this right next to all the
* * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * **
* * * * ** wonderful * * * * * *
* * * * ** * * * * * * * ** * * *
things ableton live does.
or do you feel like this would cost you customers?
i think it would.
i would have not bought this product with a warning like that.
i 've contacted my my state representitive about a required warning.
hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell,
if you can put warning stickers
o
n
a
r
t
, why not make it required to educate people about copy protection.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
thelike5 wrote: He also has issues with eating. I don't even want to get into those. All of his remotes have to be lined up and corners need to be straight across.
He DOSEN"T however need to reinstall his OS weekly. Even he knows that is FACKed up...
All of his quirks actually make him a pretty interesting person. He's a great friend.
Re: amen break
what the hell? are you five?Blomblom wrote:another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
if you are so comfortable with your copy protection system,
why not post
a warning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ing_ing_ng_ng_ng_g_g_g_g_
with complete details of the system,
your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your
hours of operation,
expiration of online unlocks,
and the possible problems
this might cause the
many customers who drop $500
on your product.
you should post all this right next to all the
* * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * **
* * * * ** wonderful * * * * * *
* * * * ** * * * * * * * ** * * *
things ableton live does.
or do you feel like this would cost you customers?
i think it would.
i would have not bought this product with a warning like that.
i 've contacted my my state representitive about a required warning.
hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell,
if you can put warning stickers
o
n
a
r
t
, why not make it required to educate people about copy protection.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
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seeing as you are the only person with this problem, why would ableton change their policy for one single user,
with thousands of happy users..
the needs of the many overshadow the needs of 1
man what a stupid thread i can't believe i actually read all of this
i changed my CPU and my same unlock still worked.
with thousands of happy users..
the needs of the many overshadow the needs of 1
man what a stupid thread i can't believe i actually read all of this
i changed my CPU and my same unlock still worked.
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Re: ableton's unfair copy protection system
They allow more unlocks, if you just e-mail them. They understand that computers need to be cleaned up from time to time (if if you're an XP user, formatted). I know because I'm on unlock #3 myself.darthstephen wrote:i hate ableton's copy protection system. as a paying customer who has had downtime, nervousness, fustration, and anxiety over unlocking ableton on the same computer...the only computer i own several times in the last 7 or 8 months, i feel it is just to start a thread pertaining to distaste for a completely unfair copy protection system. i understand the need for copy protection and i even understand challenge/response systems. BUT...other companies such as cycling 74 and db audioware either give someone an unlock code for their specific computer which would not work on another computer or, at the very least, offer an automated or 24/7 system for unlocking a product and actually provide reasonable service for their paying customers. neither cycling 74 nor db audioware are big companies with more resources than ableton, and as far as i know their copy protection works very well. $500 for software and none of that goes to convenient and reliable unlock functions for paying customers. it's just ridiculous. why can't ableton do the right thing and stop inconveniencing customers. i mean, they're across the planet from me and are off nights, weekends, and holidays. it's just neglect that they have not come up with a better system. anyway what do you really all feel? i want to see this change just as much as i want bug fixes and new features.
But hey, it's never enough to some people.
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Re: ableton's unfair copy protection system
darthstephen wrote:i hate ableton's copy protection system. as a paying customer who has had downtime, nervousness, fustration, and anxiety over unlocking ableton on the same computer...the only computer i own several times in the last 7 or 8 months, i feel it is just to start a thread pertaining to distaste for a completely unfair copy protection system. i understand the need for copy protection and i even understand challenge/response systems. BUT...other companies such as cycling 74 and db audioware either give someone an unlock code for their specific computer which would not work on another computer or, at the very least, offer an automated or 24/7 system for unlocking a product and actually provide reasonable service for their paying customers. neither cycling 74 nor db audioware are big companies with more resources than ableton, and as far as i know their copy protection works very well. $500 for software and none of that goes to convenient and reliable unlock functions for paying customers. it's just ridiculous. why can't ableton do the right thing and stop inconveniencing customers. i mean, they're across the planet from me and are off nights, weekends, and holidays. it's just neglect that they have not come up with a better system. anyway what do you really all feel? i want to see this change just as much as i want bug fixes and new features.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I installed Live originally on two machines (desktop & laptop) and reinstalled it on the laptop last week, all using the original reg they gave me when i bought it.
Did the jumping through hoops commence after you had already done several re-installs?
STRATEGY
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Darth,
I just read this whole thread, and it took me a long while to get through it. It's obvious you're upset. It's okay to be upset. Keep in mind at all times that the forum here is a bit silly at times, and you shouldn't take any of this seriously. The same people sticking you with pins on this thread will turn around and help you out down the road.
The email Dom sent you didn't sound like an interogation. He's just doing his job.
I hope you find a solution and your workflow with Live stays afloat.
Sam
I just read this whole thread, and it took me a long while to get through it. It's obvious you're upset. It's okay to be upset. Keep in mind at all times that the forum here is a bit silly at times, and you shouldn't take any of this seriously. The same people sticking you with pins on this thread will turn around and help you out down the road.
The email Dom sent you didn't sound like an interogation. He's just doing his job.
I hope you find a solution and your workflow with Live stays afloat.
Sam
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Said it before, I'll say it again...
Get a couple of these:
http://www.usb-ware.com/sata-removable-drive-value.htm
Voila, now you can play around with all the bug ridden crap you want on a seperate OS install on another hd, once you are done plop in your music production hd.
Get a couple of these:
http://www.usb-ware.com/sata-removable-drive-value.htm
Voila, now you can play around with all the bug ridden crap you want on a seperate OS install on another hd, once you are done plop in your music production hd.
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i think the only way this would work is if you had a restore disc and not an actual windows cd. the restore disc from dell or whatever would be an image of the os drive, so perhaps would keep the same installation id. but, i can assure you that if you wiped your drive and reinstalled windows from a microsoft disc, you would need a new unlock code. i really wouldn't be wasting my time defending my unpopular ideas if that wasn't the case.STRATEGY_510 wrote:I beg to differ, this was not the case for me.wrong about the os re-install, on windows at least. new unlock is needed no matter what.
Though I can only cite it working one time (so far; knock on wood)
STRATEGY
what os do you use? because I save the unlock.cfg file after I have activaed Live. AND I note exactly where this file is stored within the os.
Then when I have to reinstall, I simply copy the unlock.cfg file to the location where it is needed and of I go.
Obviously this would only work for one specific machine.
Then when I have to reinstall, I simply copy the unlock.cfg file to the location where it is needed and of I go.
Obviously this would only work for one specific machine.
Apple PowerBook 12" 1Ghz 512mb Ram...ReMOTE 25, Live 4 beta 4, Kontakt, Reaktor
Re: amen break
put down the crack pipe, son.Blomblom wrote:another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
another challenge for the ableton people.
if you are so comfortable with your copy protection system,
why not post
a warning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ning_ing_ing_ng_ng_ng_g_g_g_g_
with complete details of the system,
your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your
hours of operation,
expiration of online unlocks,
and the possible problems
this might cause the
many customers who drop $500
on your product.
you should post all this right next to all the
* * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * **
* * * * ** wonderful * * * * * *
* * * * ** * * * * * * * ** * * *
things ableton live does.
or do you feel like this would cost you customers?
i think it would.
i would have not bought this product with a warning like that.
i 've contacted my my state representitive about a required warning.
hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell,
if you can put warning stickers
o
n
a
r
t
, why not make it required to educate people about copy protection.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
i want to start a campaign in my state because i believe in action and education and in not letting corporations manipulate customers.
what a thread, i tried so hard not to post....