Holy Touch Screen Batman!

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
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Holy Touch Screen Batman!

Post by thx1138 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:45 am

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:06 am

What?!? Where?!?

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Post by inis » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:41 pm

The Lemur? This thing has been out for like a year. It has been discussed to no end already.

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Post by thx1138 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:00 pm

Read the post you goons, its been updated to 1.5 with MIDI out of the box no more OSC and Max for use in Live
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Post by hambone1 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:26 pm

You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.

Nice that they've eliminated that step now. Still saving my pennies!

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Post by gaspode » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:48 pm

thx1138 wrote:Read the post you goons, its been updated to 1.5 with MIDI out of the box no more OSC and Max for use in Live
I'll wait for the second release of the hardware :/

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Post by thx1138 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:59 pm

hambone1 wrote:You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.
Cool nice one for pointing that out, I read on here that you needed to have Max to facilitate OSC with Live. :?
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Post by hambone1 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:22 pm

gaspode wrote:[I'll wait for the second release of the hardware :/
Excellent advice!

IMO, the 800 x 600 screen resolution and size is too small.

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Post by gaspode » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:57 pm

thx1138 wrote:
hambone1 wrote:You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.
Cool nice one for pointing that out, I read on here that you needed to have Max to facilitate OSC with Live. :?
I think that requirement may have actually changed in the 1.2 release, but my memory is foggy that far back...

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Post by hambone1 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:23 pm

I'm still determined to replace my BCR2000 and Faderfox LX2 with a Lemur.

"It WILL be mine. Oh yes. It WILL be mine."

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:14 pm

hambone1 wrote:I'm still determined to replace my BCR2000 and Faderfox LX2 with a Lemur.

"It WILL be mine. Oh yes. It WILL be mine."
Oh yeah... One day!

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Post by kooki415 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:17 am

this sucks.. really. OSC is a good thing. midi support is a bad thing. it removes the incentive for live to support OSC which is WAY WAY WAY better than midi in every regard. IMHO, this isnt an upgrade. its a suck-grade (tm)

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lemur

Post by amorat » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:54 am

not to be rude, but most of the people talking 'bout the lemur here don't own actually one and still blame it, go check it out first :wink:

midi: since rel. 1.2/1.3 it supports midi alongside osc. I don't understand why this sucks - yes in an ideal world all the host-applications would support osc since many years... but most of the bigger hosts still don't.

size: of course it would be nice to have a 23" lemur for studio use...but for live it's perfect to bring it with you in a moderately sized bag. with one stroke you can swap the screenlayout (prev/next). with two strokes to any of the predefined screens

minus: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical :roll:. there is no physical 'feedback' whatsoever.

plus: you can have a very customized remote control. with rel 1.5 you can for example have several mackie control emulations. I use this to control live, reason and the fireface-sounddevice at the same time... so it's already worth 3(!) or more mcu's. then you can implement some additional step sequencers for drums or melodies ... some nice kaosspadstyle effect manipulations and for mixed applications: I'm controlling with the same controls some effects in live and some effects in my vj-application (modul8). anyway ... I'm drifting off.

the paradigmashift, which the lemur does, lies in the way you start doing interfaces: for a song rather than for one host/one software-tool. and yes the lemur is the first of its kind and we're still in 'middleage' with the whole remotecontrol-tecnology anyway

my 5p...cheers daniel

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Re: lemur

Post by Benshik » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:26 am

amorat wrote: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical :roll:.
this statement is very surprising.
what do you mean by music isnt "graphical"? For me, sounds cannot be dissociated from shapes and colours.
and for that matter, i think the lemur's shapes and colours are way more appropriate than bland knobs and faders.

Ben

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Re: lemur

Post by thx1138 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:47 am

Benshik wrote:
amorat wrote: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical :roll:.
this statement is very surprising.
what do you mean by music isnt "graphical"? For me, sounds cannot be dissociated from shapes and colours.
and for that matter, i think the lemur's shapes and colours are way more appropriate than bland knobs and faders.

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