Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

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Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by anti-banausic » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:56 pm

So, I am wondering whether anyone else has noticed this yet.

In the beta, if you freeze a track, then pull the clip while holding ctrl (on PC), you can drag the clip to an audio track, and it is like flattening the track, yet you retain the Midi clip in the midi track, which you can then unfreeze and tweak later.

How cool is that.

I think it rocks.

period.
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Post by djadonis206 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:58 pm

Can you tell me what flattening a track is?
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Post by siddhu » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:03 pm

Turning a midi track into an audio track (if I read correctly). :)

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Post by anti-banausic » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:05 pm

I believe it is the next step after freezing. You take a frozen track, like it enough, and flatten it, which replaces the Midi track and fx with the frozen audio file, removing the VSTs.

However, the only way to reverse this is to undo. You can't un-flatten a track once it has been flattened.

But, if you do it my way, you don't have to worry about regaining the midi clip. The only downside is that it doesn't turn off the VSTs. But on a frozen track, they shouldn't be processing audio anyway and shouldn't tax the CPU.
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Post by djadonis206 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:06 pm

That's awesome!!!

With the automation and everything ah?

My minds already thinking of the cool edits you can do - thanks

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Post by Soma » Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:00 pm

:D :!:

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by massivewolf » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:35 pm

For those wondering, it's Option on a Mac. Create a new audio file, select the flattened track, then press Option and drag to the empty audio track.

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by Donnie » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:31 pm

Behold, a Necromancer!

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by eyeknow » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:21 pm

I don't care if this got neckro'ed or not, I have no idea how to make this work in 9.1 on windows.

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by yur2die4 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:49 pm

Put synth in midi channel

Make melody

Freeze the track

Create a new audio channel next to it.

Copy the blue clip to the audio channel (holding Ctrl when you drag is 'copy')

Now instead of being a blue audio clip, it is a normal audio clip.

Now the blue midi channel can either be left alone, or unfrozen later if you need.

--probably does not work with sidechain--

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by Steve Glen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:44 am

Copy the track. Flatten. Deactivate frozen track. Save. Save new live set micro version number. Delete frozen track. Save.

-preserved mixer: settings and automation
-retained: vst, midi
-simplified set

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by eyeknow » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:59 am

If memory serves me correctly, didn't we have a "deep freeze" at one point in time that made all of this easier? Copying a track and then manipulating is really the only option (doable, but a proper bounce with ctrl/drag to new track would be nice.....now who else does that? :lol: )

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by Steve Glen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:24 am

I like how the mixer controls are outside of freeze...

Maybe I've just becomw used to it, but this (@9.1) works for me.

Idea: oooo what if you could have a Time Machine-like deature where you could just roll back versions of a track...?

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Re: Very cool easy way to Flatten tracks

Post by Stromkraft » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:13 pm

Steve Glen wrote:I like how the mixer controls are outside of freeze...

Maybe I've just becomw used to it, but this (@9.1) works for me.

Idea: oooo what if you could have a Time Machine-like deature where you could just roll back versions of a track...?
Ehm, you are already using Splice, right? So you can do this via the service.

No, wait. You meant a track channel and not a complete song? yeah. roll back just the one? Hmmm. Well, you can save the current set, zip the .als, go back to the previous version in Splice, rename that set file, turn off Splice and reopen the zipped set file and re-import the older version of the track via the browser. Save this under the original set file name and move the duplicate to the trash and then reactivate Splice.

This works, but is hardly perfect. I do it all the time to sync 2 machines that are used side by side in the studio.

Individual track undos would be nice.
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