Ableton! Tighten the Sequencer!

[tumbleDry]

Ableton 1st priority need to fix the timing of Live sequencer.

Noticable at slower tempo. try EnergyXT & FruityLoops. hear for yourself.

EDIT: Note! this topic should have been about the "groove & feel" of the sequencer!!! sorry my bad misnomer!

if you want the groove back.. please consider adding your name to "groove Q" in the requests forum.

[leisuremuffin]

geez, i just don't hear it....

when is this happening to you? maybe when synced to another computer or sequencer? I've noticed midi sync can be pretty flakey on live (although i haven't tried with live 6 yet).

but i gotta tell you, with no sync involved everything works fine here.


.lm.

[tumbleDry]

hi lm!

not synced! i have noticed this before and always had better rigidness with fruityloops, energyxt and hardware roland mc303.

the slackness stands out at slow tempo (proximate below 100bpm)

[Taiis]

There is can sometimes be a little micro-jump when arrangement looping is on. It's quite clearly audible when you play two samples in arrangement view with a very short (4 bar) arrangement view loop, as opposed to listening to the clips themselves looping in the matrix.

/T

[frankie123]

I agree about lives midi sequencing being a little iffy. I synced up two keyboards to live a couple days ago, and they don't always lock like I'd like them to.

[frisbeedisk]

I agree about lives midi sequencing being a little iffy. I synced up two keyboards to live a couple days ago, and they don't always lock like I'd like them to.

you should try getting a machinedrum to sync..can be a knightmare!!!

[FaX-01]

hi lm!

not synced! i have noticed this before and always had better rigidness with fruityloops, energyxt and hardware roland mc303.

the slackness stands out at slow tempo (proximate below 100bpm)

Funny I do loads of downtempo material 75-110 bpm's and find Live sounds far less robotic and way more organic and capable of holding a groove at those sorts of tempo's than any other sequencer I've used.
It's one of the reasons I like using it for sequencing myself.
Then again I don't like exceptionally rigid rythms myself and try to employ alot of timing drift and other tricks that work to my advantage compositionally.

[udp]

hi lm!

not synced! i have noticed this before and always had better rigidness with fruityloops, energyxt and hardware roland mc303.

the slackness stands out at slow tempo (proximate below 100bpm)

Funny I do loads of downtempo material 75-110 bpm's and find Live sounds far less robotic and way more organic and capable of holding a groove at those sorts of tempo's than any other sequencer I've used.
It's one of the reasons I like using it for sequencing myself.
Then again I don't like exceptionally rigid rythms myself and try to employ alot of timing drift and other tricks that work to my advantage compositionally.

I also work a lot at slower tempi and find Live is exquisite in the way it handles sync. What's the rest of your set up like? I only use the oxygen 8 for midi input and the FW410 only for audio.

[BinaryB]

Is LIVE5 better / tighter than LIVE6 ?

[mercyplease]

Ableton 1st priority need to fix the timing of Live sequencer.

Noticable at slower tempo. try EnergyXT & FruityLoops. hear for yourself.

Tighten what? the midi-sync what?

[mercyplease]

I agree about lives midi sequencing being a little iffy. I synced up two keyboards to live a couple days ago, and they don't always lock like I'd like them to.

Did these keyboards have sequencers of their own or are you talking about just sending midi notes to external synths for playback from ableton lives sequencer.
You cant just say I synced two keyboards its doesnt make sense, lack of info.

[mcconaghy]

Live's sequencer is not only tight, it has a groove of its own. Kind of organic, especially in slower tempi (60 - 110 bpm)

[Tarekith]

you should try getting a machinedrum to sync..can be a knightmare!!!

I'll let you know if the TM-1 fixes this.

[frankie123]

I agree about lives midi sequencing being a little iffy. I synced up two keyboards to live a couple days ago, and they don't always lock like I'd like them to.

Did these keyboards have sequencers of their own or are you talking about just sending midi notes to external synths for playback from ableton lives sequencer.
You cant just say I synced two keyboards its doesnt make sense, lack of info.

I slaved these keyboards to ableton.

[mercyplease]

I agree about lives midi sequencing being a little iffy. I synced up two keyboards to live a couple days ago, and they don't always lock like I'd like them to.

Did these keyboards have sequencers of their own or are you talking about just sending midi notes to external synths for playback from ableton lives sequencer.
You cant just say I synced two keyboards its doesnt make sense, lack of info.

I slaved these keyboards to ableton.

To slave an external thing means you would be sending a midi clock from ableton to those two keyboards. A keyboard is something that plays sounds. or does your keyboards have internal sequencers??>?????????>?>????? If not you are talking about loose midi timing and thats a whole different ball game and could be a number of factors. If you use one of those midi ports built in to a sound card you can easily get timing eccentrics.