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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:42 am
by Phobos
I've had a few different audio interfaces (around 5 different boxes through the years). I always thought there could be better bargains found and didn't buy a Motu Ultralite MK3 interface until now, and now I simply regret not buying it earlier, it's that good!

Compared to for example Focusrite's Saphire Pro 10/10, which I had on test for a week when making the new purchase desicion, the build quality alone of the Motu isn't that much better, but the drivers are!

The Motu driver hasn't failed me once now (only been in use for a couple of months, though) and can take more strain on a 128 sample buffer. I find that the only allowable buffer size for live playing (for drum pads, keyboard software synths etc.).

Go for a quality interface and you'll actually save money on the long run and make more music 8)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:46 pm
by xh9o
timothyallan wrote: USB2 bad.

Firewire better.

not always.

and best still is pci/pcmcia. go for motu (only pci and usb/fw) or rme (anything but usb).

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:33 pm
by Atomikat
+1 for the RME...I've used a Multiface for three years now and never had a problem, it works like charm.Just to add...RME cards don't use Firewire protocol but their own which is faster,safer,more reliable. :wink:

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:06 pm
by ekwipt
+1 on the RME

RME400 Macpro here :!:

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:15 pm
by xh9o
Yeh wrote:I've got an RME HDSP Multiface and Emu 1820M Digital Audio System. Allthough the Emu is highly flexible, has better conveters, inboard dsp effects, and more inputs/outputs and features, the RME seems to be more stable.

thats true, the drivers and straight architecture of the rme are very solid. the emu sounds good and the patching system is genius, but the cards drivers have problems with the latency (not the overall stability). these are minor problems, little dropouts from time to time (sometimes it works better on 8ms latency than on 12ms etc). ok with my purposes so far, but for live situations thats really a killer.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:52 pm
by 4ace
mouthster wrote:
DeadlyKungFu wrote:
timothyallan wrote:To summarize:

USB2 bad.

Firewire better.
From what I've read the thoroughput for USB 2.0 just isn't consistent like Firewire is. Which is why you'll see Firewire 400 drives outperform USB 2.0 drives even though USB 2.0 is rated at a higher 480 Mb/s. That inconsistency would effect audio streams.
From what i've TRIED this is completely true. At a point you'll encounter stuttering and drop out's. MAYBE on very small projects MAYBE.

I'll take firewire any day , very proven .

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:56 pm
by 4ace
And by the way I've been running the original MOTU Ultralite with no problems for 3 years straight.

I'm seriously thinking about the MK III version, and using the original as a dedicated gig unit.

RME makes great firewire kit as well you can't go wrong with either.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:59 pm
by Heiko
What about the Apogee Duet? not many ins and outs, but the quality should be great. Anyway, contemplating on either Ultralite, Duet or the Firebox, to be used live on stage running 2 mics through Ableton.....


Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:05 pm
by pat the dog
+1 for the MOTU ultralite. never had a problem with mine. works flawlessly.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:11 pm
by mr.ergonomics
my vote for RME - rock solid for me (laptop and desktop PC).

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:18 pm
by 4ace
Heiko wrote:What about the Apogee Duet? not many ins and outs, but the quality should be great. Anyway, contemplating on either Ultralite, Duet or the Firebox, to be used live on stage running 2 mics through Ableton.....

No doubt the Apogee wins hands down as far as sound quality goes. BUT like you said the I/O SUCKS.

It's a choice you'll have make. Back in the day i scored an Apogee Mini-Me that i now run into the MOTU Digitally via s/pdif and the difference between the 2 is VERY noticeable.

It depends what your needs are.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:24 pm
by dcease
:lol: you guys are funny, "helping" out, 2.3 years after the fact! as if there aren't enough new "pick me an interface" questions, now we dig them out of the grave 8O
hey op, did you ever get this sorted? :P

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:47 pm
by ThomasHelzle
I wouldn't recommend the Firebox.
Unstable drivers/firmware (the box sometimes just dies completely) and no interest from Presonus to change the situation.
Look at their forum, there's a long thread about it.

The answer I got from their "support" made one thing clear:
I personally will never buy anything Presonus again.

The other thing is, that they reduced the gain you can use on the mic/instrument in's so that it can run on firewire-juice alone. (Why not be clever and reduce it only when bus-powered?). Now I have to actually use a separate mic preamp for it... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Thomas Helzle

Edit: hahahah - dcease, you are right, didn't realize I'm answering an archeological question ;-)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:11 pm
by channelite
So far on my Mac Pro, the M-Box2 and Motu 828 Mk3 have worked flawlessly. I have also tried the Edirol FA-66 which I returned because there was cracking/ artifacts in the audio.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:21 pm
by hacktheplanet
My Ultralite has been rock fucking solid over the last two and a half years, and I've beat the shit out of it. I use it almost daily for recording.
I've never experienced ANY issues with it and OSX.
Highly recommended. :D