So you mean there is hope for me as a stand up comedian?Nogi wrote:
Most tasks of magnitude would never begin, continue or end without the art of delusion. And, I, for one, think you are hilarious.
OK, then so will I. Actually, I think it's funny that we have kind of hijacked this thread and completely made it OT.forge wrote:
he he...now I'll reply again too and so it goes on
I suppose we all know our fair share.forge wrote:
what you seem to be talking about sounds a bit more like some kind of mental illness, in which case you must know alot of nutters!
I guess it does.forge wrote:
the example you gave kind of illustrates the pointlessness of being botherd by the titles being misused even better!
That implies then that I can claim to call myself anything I want, persist in believing it despite the lack of appreciation by anyone, but just be crap at it. So now I can go around telling everyone that I am a ballet dancer, a magician, a comedian, actor, writer, belly dancer, film maker etc..........albeit very crap ones. I didn't realise until now that I am a New Renaissance man, even if I am rubbish at all those things. Thank you Forge for giving me a new sense of purpose in my life.forge wrote:
really, if you were the said person wanting to ba a stand up then it would depend how long you were prepared to be booed off stage before you gave up and acknowledged that you cant cut it - and the same for a muso
in fact in both of those cases BECAUSE they are performance oriented career paths it's pretty easy to find out pretty early in your career how rubbish you are because the audience will let you know that, even if only by walking and showing no interest ever
if someone is rubbish and still carries on believing in themselves despite no audience ever appreciating them then in a way good luck to them and they deserve the honorary title as much as anyone, they just might need the additional prefix of "crap"
but a "crap stand up" is still a stand up!
I know that Jim Carey made a movie I think called "Man On The Moon", about an annoying and unfunny comedian whose name I can't remember. He essentially was crap, but he kept on performing. You have probably seen it (I presume). To me, he is a good example of someone who kept getting up in front of an audience who thought he was shit and actually was shit (in my opinion). Maybe it does pay to delude yourself and have the gall and thick skin to keep going, even if you are total rubbish. In some ways that is quite inspiring.forge wrote:
and anyone who wouldnt be prepared to take it that far or even to the stage at all probably wouldnt call themselves either of those titles for long without giving up and becoming an accountant or something instead because it takes alot to keep getting up in front of an audience that thinks you are crap
Just in case you respond again Forge, I won't be able to reply for quite a while as I need to get quite a lot of things done. So till next time.