What are the best notes for trance?

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
ethios4
Posts: 5377
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:28 am

Post by ethios4 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:14 pm

Ya know, this is what I don't like about this forum...you get some jackaninny on here thinks he's got the whole world figured out cuz he figured out to use F for drums and G for harmony, he goes around filling kids heads with this crazy shit, and the truth is he hasn't even been around long enough to know why you dont use F for drums and G for harmony!

I'm out...

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:52 pm
Location: Vancouver Sometimes - Sometimes Geneva
Contact:

Post by EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:05 am

what is the best plugin for playing harmony?
maybe my notes are wrong. here's what i have so far:

F F F F F F F F G F F F F F G then a black note F F F F F F F G G G G F F F

then the drum notes

F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F G F F F F F F F F F F F G G G G G G G G G G F F F F F F F F

is this what most people do? should i ony be doing 42 notes althogether
Image

Star Power

Able2Live8
Posts: 64
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:36 pm
Location: relatively in third dimension

Post by Able2Live8 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:06 am

Best starting from the middle:

F is good but not as good as C.D on the other hand is sometimes as good as F but more important than A depending on whether it is on the begening or the end of the third note from the end of chorus.It is not advizable to consider this.

my two cents

kineticUk
Posts: 1531
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:37 am

Post by kineticUk » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:16 am

brightonalex wrote:To enjoy trance you'll definitely need an e.
No ... you need to use something much much stronger ... something that will knock you out ... Try starting with some special k.
MacBook MacOS Live 9.7.1 Max for Live Push Logic

jb61264
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:21 am
Location: Nebraska, USA

Post by jb61264 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:43 am

kineticUk wrote:
brightonalex wrote:To enjoy trance you'll definitely need an e.
No ... you need to use something much much stronger ... something that will knock you out ... Try starting with some special k.
Now there's some sound advice!...finally :)
3.2 GHz Windows XP, Live 7, Reason 4, FL Studio 7, Stylus RMX, Sytrus, Toxic III, Novation X-Station 49, Akai MPD24, EMu XK6, Roland MC-303, Gemini BPM5000 Mixer, MBox

glitchrock-buddha
Posts: 4357
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:29 am
Location: The Ableton Live Forum

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:19 am

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil wrote:what is the best plugin for playing harmony?
maybe my notes are wrong. here's what i have so far:

F F F F F F F F G F F F F F G then a black note F F F F F F F G G G G F F F

then the drum notes

F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F G F F F F F F F F F F F G G G G G G G G G G F F F F F F F F

is this what most people do? should i ony be doing 42 notes althogether
Actually, I wouldn't go over 40 at all. Anything over a total of 40 notes is so pre 2005. These days, all the big name producers are using a maximum of 40 notes.

To keep it really fresh, I would stay under 37 total notes. And if you're going to hit a black note, it's best sandwiched between two F's, not an F and a G like you did there in your example.

With this knowledge you should be signed within at least three weeks.

Cheers,

keep up the good work!
Professional Shark Jumper.

jb61264
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:21 am
Location: Nebraska, USA

Post by jb61264 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:28 am

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil wrote:what is the best plugin for playing harmony?
maybe my notes are wrong. here's what i have so far:

F F F F F F F F G F F F F F G then a black note F F F F F F F G G G G F F F

then the drum notes

F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F F G F F F F F F F F F F F G G G G G G G G G G F F F F F F F F

is this what most people do? should i ony be doing 42 notes althogether
Actually, I wouldn't go over 40 at all. Anything over a total of 40 notes is so pre 2005. These days, all the big name producers are using a maximum of 40 notes.

To keep it really fresh, I would stay under 37 total notes. And if you're going to hit a black note, it's best sandwiched between two F's, not an F and a G like you did there in your example.

With this knowledge you should be signed within at least three weeks.

Cheers,

keep up the good work!
but...but...42 is the answer to everything...how can he possibly get signed without using at least 42?
3.2 GHz Windows XP, Live 7, Reason 4, FL Studio 7, Stylus RMX, Sytrus, Toxic III, Novation X-Station 49, Akai MPD24, EMu XK6, Roland MC-303, Gemini BPM5000 Mixer, MBox

leonard
Posts: 893
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:52 am
Location: ? ?

Post by leonard » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:42 am

i like to spell words when making trance.

B A D; F A D; E G G... etc. etc.

trance kids need a bit of help with their schooling, but nothing too complex, you'll confuse them (they might get angry).

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:52 pm
Location: Vancouver Sometimes - Sometimes Geneva
Contact:

Post by EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:01 am

I already have way over 42 notes. i took some of the Fs out and replaced them with some Es and the black note next to the E so now it's like this

E E E E E black note next to e E E E Eblack note next to e
E E E E E E E E E E E E EE black note next to e
E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E black note next to e black note next to e
E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE black note next TO E E E E E E E E black note next to e E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E black note next to e E E E E E black note next to e black note next to e E E E E E E E E E black note next to e E E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E EE E E black note next to e black note next to e E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE E E E E E E E E E E E EE black note next TO E E E E E E E E black note next to e E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E black note next to e E E E E E black note next to e black note next to e

As you can see, I've been really busy.

using the 2 different notes gives this trance a real something special. that black note makes it extra special. Should I use harmony or the envelope too? also, i used a filter on one midi note to make it stand out.
Image

Star Power

Atomikat
Posts: 968
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:46 pm
Location: Elizabeth,NJ,USA and Colombia

Post by Atomikat » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:09 am

Oh...I think you are so evil :twisted:

jb61264
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:21 am
Location: Nebraska, USA

Post by jb61264 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:20 am

Personally, I don't think anybody should ever answer another one of Evils posts until he gets rid of the freaking Fabio wannabe picture in his sig
3.2 GHz Windows XP, Live 7, Reason 4, FL Studio 7, Stylus RMX, Sytrus, Toxic III, Novation X-Station 49, Akai MPD24, EMu XK6, Roland MC-303, Gemini BPM5000 Mixer, MBox

ciw
Posts: 689
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:36 pm
Location: Cardiff, UK

Post by ciw » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:15 am

digitalkettle wrote:
What do you get when you drop a piano on a herd of cattle?
A flat phrygian...hmmm, doesn't quite work in text :?
Yes it does. Awesome!!! :lol: :lol:

punkdISCO
Posts: 102
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:21 pm
Location: London
Contact:

Post by punkdISCO » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:47 am

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil wrote:i'm proud to be one of the few that are really pushing the limits on what this software can do!
Be careful not to push too far! It’s starting to sound like you are getting dangerously close to PET (Progressive Experimental Trance) in which case, you may be alienating all but the avant-garde Trance listeners.

Just a thought..
Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk
http://www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track, dedicated to DJs.
www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures

brightonalex
Posts: 1381
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:30 pm

Post by brightonalex » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:37 pm

It would be very helpful to hear evil's work in progress.

mrweasel
Posts: 236
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:30 pm

Post by mrweasel » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:01 pm

i can't imagine how anybody makes trance with just F
Note: did he mean: i can't imagine how anybody makes trance ?

Post Reply