CPU light sampler?

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adam_harzuf
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CPU light sampler?

Post by adam_harzuf » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:25 pm

Hello
I want to have one sampler per midi channel, which meens multiple instances of it. So it needs to be:

CPU light
Nice looping & moduation options- (responsive to velocity and maybe CC's)
ADSR's - I don't want to "draw" my envelope/s everytime. It's nice as an extra.
Important functions automatable
Can contain only one sample
Fast sample setup and workflow (unlike Kontakt for example...)

I've downloaded the DiscoDSP's HighLife and it's great, expect that you can't automate even the filter through Live.

Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Dr Dub
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Post by Dr Dub » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:50 pm

Perhaps simpler? or sampler? :wink:

If you could explain why u don t use these, an answer will be easier and more personal

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Post by adam_harzuf » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:46 pm

I don't have Live 6 to use Sampler, but Simpler and Impulse are just bad sounding samplers to my ears...Simpler does'nt have enough modulation options anyway. I need something tweakable like Battery, but without multiple cells, and smaller on the screen :)
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:48 pm

Sampler is Simpler with multisamples and FM modulation, try Simpler some more, it's got a lot of legs, it's free, takes very little CPU and is already installed.

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Post by Dr Dub » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:16 am

use simpler together with, lives FX, there should be enough to tweak, and it s
all automateable.

Or think of Live as a Sampler by itself. Use audiotracks instead of miditracks -
place your samples as clips in the session view and assign them to keys.
You can even assign them even to keyzones (look in the manual).
You can tweak them with FX and use clipenvelopes.
Just remeber to set their launch-quantize to none (or what you want)

For me it seems as this could be what you want - and - it s cpu-light and no $.

If you want a more elaborated Sampler, it will be not as cpu friendly.

You could look at Dimension Pro and Kontakt is mighty but a beast to use

Hope this Helps

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:57 am

up grade to live six.


the racks feature is great, and you can turn simpler into what ever you need simpler to be.


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Post by adam_harzuf » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:01 am

I simply don't want to use Abelton's samplers. So I better invest my money in an adaquate sampler.

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:34 pm

do what you want.

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Post by rikhyray » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:58 pm

I asked similar question 2 years ago here on this board, was adviced Reason- since it is CPU friendly, I use it 90% NNXT for RDK the hypersampled acoustic kits and Rhodes. Meanwhile with version3 it can be used for some other interesting sounds.
I fully understand your lack of interests in Simpler - tried, tested and it is good for nothing in my productions. I am Live fan but I am not fanatic, Simpler is ..... better no comments.
If you dont want rewire then I remember trying one from Steinberg, forgot the name, wasnt bad.

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:05 pm

Shortcircuit from Vemberaudio.

(If I didn't own it allready - I'd go for Sampler, though. But then I have Live 6).

-M

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Post by adam_harzuf » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:17 am

Lo-Fi Massahkah, SUPER WICKED!
I don't mind about the voice restriction.... but too bad there's the 2 instances limit..

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Post by rikhyray » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:12 am

Lo fi is it so that up there is so cold and dark that people can get depressed, drunk or just sit and develop absolutely amazing shit - Clavia, Reason and now that Surge ! I am amazed, it sounds fantastic. Seriously I find certain similrity to something like G2- uncompromised high quality, richness, clarity and definition. Synth design is the best from Sweden after Bergamn.

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Post by adam_harzuf » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:54 pm

I wonder if it can beat my favourite workhorse - NI's Photone...
I like the one screen (yet it has it all) and the straightforward GUI.
I don't like going between screens but after seeing the logic behind Shortcircuit, I wonder what kind of a synth these guys can make...

How's the CPU going with this synth?

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Post by muthafunka » Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:40 pm

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:Shortcircuit from Vemberaudio.

(If I didn't own it allready - I'd go for Sampler, though. But then I have Live 6).

-M
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