Waves SSL 4000 plugins VS Focusrite Liquid Mix

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which of the two would you buy?

Waves SSL 4000 SSL plugins.
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50%
Focusrite Liquid Mix(with some SSL emulation)
13
50%
 
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Waves SSL 4000 plugins VS Focusrite Liquid Mix

Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:22 pm

who's an owner of both or one or the other?
which is your pick.

I honestly am a junkie for the SSL sound ever since using one of the G consoles(not sure which one)

im really wanting the Stereo Master Buss Compressor.
but does the Liquid Mix offer the same "audio glue" in imitation form?

i know focusrite says that there is upgrades to the EQ/Compressor library to download on the website.

on gearslutz.com they had this same battle, but the guy who compressed the tracks , seems like he didnt do a great job, as the compressed / eq'd tracks sounded worse than the original

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=71552


so i only got 800ish to spend, Liquid Mix(EQ/Compressor - SSL imitaitions)
or SSL 4000plugins from Waves(EQ/Compressor/Gate/Limiter-SSL imitation)


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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:35 pm

i neeeeeeeeeeed to knoooooooowww!!!!!!

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:36 pm

I've used both. To be honest I'd save up and get an SSL Duende. After doing some work with that thing, it blew both the liquid and the Waves plugs out of the water. I do fancy the Liquid Mix tho, its quite useful for other things than SSL-style emulations. The Avalon setting are very slick, as well as the other focusrite gear it mimics.

my 2 cents.


oh think of it this way Duende = 32 channels of REAL (i.e. no modeling or convolution bs) SSL compression & EQing for under 2k.
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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:48 pm

im not gonna lie, SSL Duende is what i want most. but i cant afford to get it. its an 800 dollars or bust thing,(as im not good at saving money, lets be real here)

so its one or the other.

thanks for the input roach.

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:51 pm

Contra wrote:im not gonna lie, SSL Duende is what i want most. but i cant afford to get it. its an 800 dollars or bust thing,(as im not good at saving money, lets be real here)

so its one or the other.

thanks for the input roach.
if thats the case get the Liquid, u can make much cooler sounds than being limited to just the Waves plugins.
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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:53 pm

well im also basing it off that doods mixes on the gearslutz website, and the ssl sounded better BUT he sounds like he doesnt kno what he's doing....

does the liquid mix have SSL emulations, if-so what and which exactly if u have time to share.

thanks.

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:53 pm

http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/movies/

buy our product cause we got BT to stop by our booth, lol.
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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:58 pm

Contra wrote:well im also basing it off that doods mixes on the gearslutz website, and the ssl sounded better BUT he sounds like he doesnt kno what he's doing....

does the liquid mix have SSL emulations, if-so what and which exactly if u have time to share.

thanks.

I havent used the Liquid mix that much in the studio yet. One of my friends has the liquid mix and let me mess around with it in live, when i was over there enjoying afew drinks. As for my experience with the SSL plugins, i messed around abit with them when i was @ GC pro.
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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:02 pm

yea i saw that movie, he kinda scared me into not wanting one.

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:09 pm

Contra wrote:yea i saw that movie, he kinda scared me into not wanting one.

heheh, this is the best:


BT ACID INTERVIEW



"BT: It's seamless, it doesn't crash, and it runs so awesome on my AMD machines. I do two things in ACID. I like using it as a VST host, and I use it as a compositional tool. I've got it chock-a-block stocked with my own loops and they're all keyed. I just grab three bass lines, an ACID line and a bunch of percussion, and it all loads in so fast. Initially, when [Ableton] Live® came out, it was viewed as a really competitive tool with ACID, but they're totally different. Live is great to perform with, but in the studio, I don't have the luck with it that I have with ACID. ACID is instantaneous gratification in a way that's not talking down to the user, nor is it making music for you. "
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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:10 pm

damn and he tried LIVE.
ouch......

so i guess Liquid Mix because BT uses it.

:lol:

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:15 pm

Contra wrote:damn and he tried LIVE.
ouch......

so i guess Liquid Mix because BT uses it.

:lol:
well unlike acid, the liquid mix is actually pretty useful. Then again Im a DSP gear junkie when it comes to these things. Actually, next year I'm finally gonna add a liquid mix to my setup.....then a duende when i have some extra $$$$ to spend.
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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:16 pm

bump so others can partake in the voting madness, at please state why u voted for it.

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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:54 pm

please help a brotha out,800 bucks is alot of money to waste.....

any other waves ssl plugin users/and or liquid mix users????

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Post by roach808 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:23 pm

its not an ssl comp, but its pretty badass if ur not looking to drop a ton of money on some good hardware-based compression.

http://www.mercenary.com/realniccom.html
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