Waves SSL 4000 plugins VS Focusrite Liquid Mix

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which of the two would you buy?

Waves SSL 4000 SSL plugins.
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Focusrite Liquid Mix(with some SSL emulation)
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50%
 
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Post by DivineCo » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:35 am

I am also planing to buy LM. But is a bit unsure of how well it works in conjunction with Windows XP and Live6.
Anyone out there who knows?

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Post by roach808 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:59 pm

FrankH wrote:Please keep talking, this topic is very interesting.

I would like to enter exhibit A. into evidence;

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Post by FrankH » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:27 pm

roach808 wrote: I would like to enter exhibit A. into evidence;

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The sound of it is OK. :D
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Post by roach808 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:29 pm

FrankH wrote:
roach808 wrote: I would like to enter exhibit A. into evidence;

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The sound of it is OK. :D

wonder what it sounds like if u ran it thru beat repeat, then processed thru a liquid mix with an SSL mixbuss comp.
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Post by FrankH » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:31 pm

Something like, scweatsh - boom - hhmmm?
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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:06 pm

bloody goodness!!!!

can liquid mix be used in ableton live 6?

what about the ssl plugins????


this alone may be my deciding factor, as i will not buy another digidesign product just to use pro tools, and i lost my logic express serial # (what a dumbass!)


once again cuz i digress......


can liquid mix be used in ableton live 6?

what about the ssl plugins????

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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:17 pm

bump....dont wanna waste my 800 bucks on the wrong one....

SSL 4000 plugins
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Liquid Mix?

which does NOT work in Ableton?

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Post by roach808 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:30 pm

Contra wrote:bloody goodness!!!!

can liquid mix be used in ableton live 6?

what about the ssl plugins????


this alone may be my deciding factor, as i will not buy another digidesign product just to use pro tools, and i lost my logic express serial # (what a dumbass!)


once again cuz i digress......


can liquid mix be used in ableton live 6?

what about the ssl plugins????


yes it can be using in live, as a VST or AU. Oh and they already updated them to UB if ur on an intel mac like myself.
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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:38 pm

which the liquid mix or the SSL?

or both?

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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:40 pm

also been reading on gearheadz.com (not that many but it is alot, not compared to the amount of positives though) people complaining about liquid mix, and it having lots of bugs and other sorts of blah blah, just go on their forum and do a liquid mix search....

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Post by Parisongs » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:06 pm

I posted a question a while back asking if the Waves SSL were functioing in Live 6 and 2 people replied that they were. That said, I think I have decided to buy the Duende now that its PC compatible and because I don't want to take the CPU hit from the native Waves plugs.

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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:13 pm

Parisongs wrote:I posted a question a while back asking if the Waves SSL were functioing in Live 6 and 2 people replied that they were. That said, I think I have decided to buy the Duende now that its PC compatible and because I don't want to take the CPU hit from the native Waves plugs.

yea from what ive heard the Duende plugins shit all over the Waves ones (for obvious reasons)

the one problem i have with Liquid mix is the 2,056 sample delay, it says most programs Logic/Nuendo (what about Live????does anyone know>?????) correct the delay with compensation but that Pro Tools LE systems dont, and that having 2 instances of Liquid Mix on one track in Pro Tools LE systems exceeds the allowed maximum samples of 4,095 samples allowed in Pro Tools LE (direct quote from Mix magazine-oct 2006) so that kinda sucks too, what if shit like that happens in LIVE?

anyone know from experience????

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Post by sweetjesus » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:22 pm

http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/ec1.html

mono but i think it would poo on all the other stuff discussed here.

EDIT: 6am overstatement... i dont think it would crap on the others in terms of versatility, but this is a really nice rack and i feel it would improve your sound if you are after decent eq and compression

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Post by roach808 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:06 pm

sweetjesus wrote:http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/ec1.html

mono but i think it would poo on all the other stuff discussed here.

EDIT: 6am overstatement... i dont think it would crap on the others in terms of versatility, but this is a really nice rack and i feel it would improve your sound if you are after decent eq and compression
afew of my friend used toft before, said it was best used as an expensive paperweight. Or, something to peg ur roommate with if he gets drunk & disorderly.
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Post by Contra » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:29 pm

sweetjesus wrote:http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/ec1.html

mono but i think it would poo on all the other stuff discussed here.

EDIT: 6am overstatement... i dont think it would crap on the others in terms of versatility, but this is a really nice rack and i feel it would improve your sound if you are after decent eq and compression
dont get me wrong that shit looks mad nice prolly sounds nice too, but for 800 bucks i want some versatility, liquid mix ton of emulations. and the ssl is at least 3 plugs.....oh decisions decisions to make

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