Is tech at a stalemate?
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The new Numark controllers ICDx and DMC2 won't be using midi - numark is switching to HID controllers!
This is like the biggest news of the season, for me. Serato already supports it, so they are making a proper statement with this move. This means we'll get way lower latencies, a lot higher resolution, and a lot more data transfer, like for displays and so on.
The minute they hit the shelves in the Danish music store I will be there to review one or both of these, and how they work through MaxMSP ! Woohaa!
This is an unexpected move for me - HID works out of the box with a lot of the cool software, and development tools for it have been around since god knows when, so the other players might pick up on it quite quickly.
Good thinking on Numarks part - a bold move.
This is like the biggest news of the season, for me. Serato already supports it, so they are making a proper statement with this move. This means we'll get way lower latencies, a lot higher resolution, and a lot more data transfer, like for displays and so on.
The minute they hit the shelves in the Danish music store I will be there to review one or both of these, and how they work through MaxMSP ! Woohaa!
This is an unexpected move for me - HID works out of the box with a lot of the cool software, and development tools for it have been around since god knows when, so the other players might pick up on it quite quickly.
Good thinking on Numarks part - a bold move.
mbp 2.66, osx 10.6.8, 8GB ram.
you all deserve to be happyminimal wrote:with stupid tubes in it labeled "warm sounding"sqook wrote:I disagree. I think what the world needs is more cheesy, fake-retro gear.hoffman2k wrote:We need more MIDI keyboards!!!!
There is not enough choice.
http://www.line6.com/toneport/keyboards.html
that is interesting. Wireless USB/HID is also tried and true, so there are immediately some interesting possibilities there as well.Machinate wrote: This is an unexpected move for me - HID works out of the box with a lot of the cool software, and development tools for it have been around since god knows when, so the other players might pick up on it quite quickly.
Good thinking on Numarks part - a bold move.
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So, contollers still rule the "want" list.....and why not?
Most controller (at least what we have here in the states) SUCK DINGLE DONKEY DOO DOO!
For me, I'd think there are some fundamental "duhs"...........
Actual control of at the very least..major software controls. Yep, there are a couple who "claim it" but none I'm aware of that deliver.
Reliability, sheesh! What a concept
I think it should have the contollers and keys combined...some disagree. I want semi weighted keys and pads (axiom style, without the trashy breakages) and mackie style controls......if you know what I mean.
reasonable cost. this does not mean "cheap" it means reasonable. For example, the remote sl 37 price might not be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that by-and-large it DOES NOT WORK! So, if it did what they said it did, 500 bucks seems reasonable to me.
Now, more discussion.....
Most controller (at least what we have here in the states) SUCK DINGLE DONKEY DOO DOO!
For me, I'd think there are some fundamental "duhs"...........
Actual control of at the very least..major software controls. Yep, there are a couple who "claim it" but none I'm aware of that deliver.
Reliability, sheesh! What a concept
I think it should have the contollers and keys combined...some disagree. I want semi weighted keys and pads (axiom style, without the trashy breakages) and mackie style controls......if you know what I mean.
reasonable cost. this does not mean "cheap" it means reasonable. For example, the remote sl 37 price might not be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that by-and-large it DOES NOT WORK! So, if it did what they said it did, 500 bucks seems reasonable to me.
Now, more discussion.....
it feels like its close, and yet so far away...
with the coming and going of namm '07, the near future seems like it's only been charted out but not set in stone.
for instance, is anyone else surprised that NI actually came out with an interface before they came out with a midi (usb) controller? numark is taking over (kinda; i think).
a non-recognized company comes out of nowhere, Cortex, to offer soon the dmix-600. this 'console' coupled with traktor scratch seems like all i would need to pull off a cool gig.
but what i really want is a RANE usb/ midi controller designed for serato but open enough for traktor, or live. that's it. two decks, four band eq, multiple cue points, multiple loop points... like torq xponent but not m-audio build quality.
to speak on the current strategy of rane...
it's been know that rane is a hardware company first. which begs the question 'why is RANE letting all these other companies tread on it's territory?' for which i have a theory.
Rane has in development a new serato building off the ttm57 sl, a new hardware controller for serato but will be open to other dj mixing softwares and daws. you know, just to bring the whole damn industry back to the standard it was once at.
i've seen vestax's controller and i've considered the xponent, the NI traktor scratch, rane serato scrath live.
i need rane build, torq dj-oriented flexibility, traktors integration with beatport and rewire to live in both my hardware and my software.
until these conditions are met, i'm holding my breathe until the next big conference.
for instance, is anyone else surprised that NI actually came out with an interface before they came out with a midi (usb) controller? numark is taking over (kinda; i think).
a non-recognized company comes out of nowhere, Cortex, to offer soon the dmix-600. this 'console' coupled with traktor scratch seems like all i would need to pull off a cool gig.
but what i really want is a RANE usb/ midi controller designed for serato but open enough for traktor, or live. that's it. two decks, four band eq, multiple cue points, multiple loop points... like torq xponent but not m-audio build quality.
to speak on the current strategy of rane...
it's been know that rane is a hardware company first. which begs the question 'why is RANE letting all these other companies tread on it's territory?' for which i have a theory.
Rane has in development a new serato building off the ttm57 sl, a new hardware controller for serato but will be open to other dj mixing softwares and daws. you know, just to bring the whole damn industry back to the standard it was once at.
i've seen vestax's controller and i've considered the xponent, the NI traktor scratch, rane serato scrath live.
i need rane build, torq dj-oriented flexibility, traktors integration with beatport and rewire to live in both my hardware and my software.
until these conditions are met, i'm holding my breathe until the next big conference.
He does. Mathias@Faderfox?jahnlay wrote:There could definitely be some better designed Ableton controllers. How hard could it be for some R&D guys to read through these forums and see what we want and then design and build it?
Actually the dm01 (Danny Mac's controller, to be produced by Kenton) looks to be interesting from a DJ controller perspective.
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I like my Frontier Tranzport, and the AlphaTrack looks good, too:jahnlay wrote:There could definitely be some better designed Ableton controllers. How hard could it be for some R&D guys to read through these forums and see what we want and then design and build it?
http://www.frontierdesign.com/Products/AlphaTrack
UTENZIL a tool... of the muse.
This would have been sweet
I waited ages to get this and then it never came out
It was meant to have come out in 2001. Now at the time it would have been massive. imho
It was meant to have come out in 2001. Now at the time it would have been massive. imho