Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:06 am

OK I'm pretty dammed sure this is the longest thread ever here at Ableton.

Goddamn I love this place!

See Anarchy can, and does work.

edge100 · Post by **edge100** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:29 am

NorthernMonkey wrote:
12micsn1 wrote:RICHARD DAWKINS is a ASSCLOWN

Mr. Dawkins claims to be a SCIENTIST an says GOD is a delusion. I like to think RICHARD DAWKINS is a smart man or many people like him smart. Unfortunately, these people try their hardest to defend him apparently thier not smart at all when figuring out WHAT is GOD? When all this delusional talk about GOD makes them look like a ASSCLOWN. If one can figure out SPACE then one can figure out GOD. GOD has always been SPACE an NOTHING and SOMETHING has always acquired SPACE to exist. Proof!!! GOD has never had a place in space since GOD is literally Space itself. WOW!!!!!!! YES!!!!!! SPACE is GOD. Revelation!!!! The Universe itself has always been GOD not of GOD. SPACE, spirit and matter has always been what is GOD. You may call this the ORIGINAL HOLY TRINITY. The trinity itself has a direct connection to Space or Cosmos. You may call this illogical and stupid at first to you give this some deep thought many ancients did the exact thing. When people figure out how the mind thinks of space then One will come to the conclusion GOD has always been there. Being ONE with the Universe has always meant being ONE with GOD the Universe or SPACE. Everyone is trying to FIND there comfort in space to exist. Imagine that RICHARD DAWKINS trying to prove he doesnt need any SPACE but GOD still gives what is GOD to all in SPACE. Richard Dawkins is clueless.
i think we need Edge to figure this one out

You're not sucking me back into this thread...I just stumbled in here looking for porn...I mean Ableton tips...tips!!! Ya, that's it!

12micsn1 · Post by **12micsn1** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:43 pm

When will people realise that existence itself requires SPACE or place for CREATION to exist? SPACE or GOD are the first cause to absolute being are literally one in the same with no beginning and no end. No matter how hard we try to go about proving GOD doesnt exist one has to wonder how there was nothing even SPACE as nothing being? Theres no way CREATION can prove SPACE or GOD never existed when both are TIMELESS an beyond CREATION intellectual capacity. No mind of CREATION can grasp ZERO existence of SPACE or GOD which is the absolute cause of being to our nature. GOD being space, spirit and matter wasnt invented by me but was found out in times long before in ancient cultures. All that is GOD is just the foundation for existence of being here an knowing life and nature. SPACE, spirit and matter are the absolute truths to the nature of GOD as the foundation for existence. ALL three are part of the HOLY TRINITY of absolute truths in ancient philosophy.

BoimB son of BoB · Post by **BoimB son of BoB** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:16 pm

12micsn1 wrote:When will people realise that existence itself requires SPACE or place for CREATION to exist? SPACE or GOD are the first cause to absolute being are literally one in the same with no beginning and no end. No matter how hard we try to go about proving GOD doesnt exist one has to wonder how there was nothing even SPACE as nothing being? Theres no way CREATION can prove SPACE or GOD never existed when both are TIMELESS an beyond CREATION intellectual capacity. No mind of CREATION can grasp ZERO existence of SPACE or GOD which is the absolute cause of being to our nature. GOD being space, spirit and matter wasnt invented by me but was found out in times long before in ancient cultures. All that is GOD is just the foundation for existence of being here an knowing life and nature. SPACE, spirit and matter are the absolute truths to the nature of GOD as the foundation for existence. ALL three are part of the HOLY TRINITY of absolute truths in ancient philosophy.

space has a beginning and and end. space has been 'created' too. space probably is hyperbolic which means you will get back to the point where you started your journey. probably this ain't the only universe too. maybe there are thousands or millions of other universes. gravity is hypothized to be the result of a leakage from a neighbouring universe.

you see, it's not difficult to come up with nice ideas. everybody with a bit of imagination can come up with extraordinary theories and explanations.

the goal is to back them up.

so go play philosopher with yourself instead of making a fool of yourself in public.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:04 pm

My favorite completely redundant reasoning for the existence of god.

'Existence itself proves that god exists, because nothing could exist without god. Even the existence of nothing proves the existence of god....'

Seriously who can argue with that?

zordon · Post by **zordon** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:45 pm

knotkranky wrote:The nutter may be right. They found gods eye

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/e/eyeofgod.htm

Thats Galactus's true form, heres how he normally looks!

dm_hawk · Post by **dm_hawk** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:09 pm

yep, longest thread i've seen here.

particle · Post by **particle** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:12 am

i do not know who dawkins is but i think that everyone should create their own religion. i dont think that religion has to involve some kind of god. i think that atheism is just as dogmatic as christianity becasue it is disbelief and disbelief is just as closed off as belief. the fact is we dont know how existance exists. obviously, the earth was not created 10,000 years ago, but if you think about what life is, one of the conclusions you might come to is that life is the universe looking in the mirror. that makes sense becasue we are made from the universe. if life is a way for the universe to observe its self, then maybe evolution is the process of some kind of awareness that is binded to the universe or maybe even the creator of the universe manifesting its self into its own creation. that would fit in with why so much life happens in fractal patterns as well and why the universe appears to be infinite. also, the subatomic particles that electrons are made from are rapidly teleproting in and out of this dimention as far as we know. where do they go? maybe that has something to do with seemingly psychic intuition.....im not saying i believe this but the possibilities would appear to me limitless when we are still half evolved apes that cant comprehend how anything is here in the first place...but yeah..christianity is stupid and full of shit...it wasnt even invented untill 200 years after jesus died.

particle · Post by **particle** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:15 am

particle wrote:i do not know who dawkins is but i think that everyone should create their own religion. i dont think that religion has to involve some kind of god. i think that atheism is just as dogmatic as christianity becasue it is disbelief and disbelief is just as closed off as belief. the fact is we dont know how existance exists. obviously, the earth was not created 10,000 years ago, but if you think about what life is, one of the conclusions you might come to is that life is the universe looking in the mirror. that makes sense becasue we are made from the universe. if life is a way for the universe to observe its self, then maybe evolution is the process of some kind of awareness that is binded to the universe or maybe even the creator of the universe manifesting its self into its own creation. that would fit in with why so much life happens in fractal patterns as well and why the universe appears to be infinite. also, the subatomic particles that electrons are made from are rapidly teleproting in and out of this dimention as far as we know. where do they go? maybe that has something to do with seemingly psychic intuition.....im not saying i believe this but the possibilities would appear to me limitless when we are still half evolved apes that cant comprehend how anything is here in the first place...but yeah..christianity is stupid and full of shit...it wasnt even invented untill 200 years after jesus died.

so i guess what i mean is maybe life is god and it does not realize it untill it evolves enough..which may or may not happen deepending on how the life on whatever planet interacts with its self once it is smart enough to create

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:36 am

particle wrote:i do not know who dawkins is but i think that everyone should create their own religion. i dont think that religion has to involve some kind of god. i think that atheism is just as dogmatic as christianity becasue it is disbelief and disbelief is just as closed off as belief. the fact is we dont know how existance exists. obviously, the earth was not created 10,000 years ago, but if you think about what life is, one of the conclusions you might come to is that life is the universe looking in the mirror. that makes sense becasue we are made from the universe. if life is a way for the universe to observe its self, then maybe evolution is the process of some kind of awareness that is binded to the universe or maybe even the creator of the universe manifesting its self into its own creation. that would fit in with why so much life happens in fractal patterns as well and why the universe appears to be infinite. also, the subatomic particles that electrons are made from are rapidly teleproting in and out of this dimention as far as we know. where do they go? maybe that has something to do with seemingly psychic intuition.....im not saying i believe this but the possibilities would appear to me limitless when we are still half evolved apes that cant comprehend how anything is here in the first place...but yeah..christianity is stupid and full of shit...it wasnt even invented untill 200 years after jesus died.

Agnostics are atheists without balls. Big, meaty, saucy, balls covered in a
tangy tomato sauce.

Please cut it out with the HUGE pics, it makes the thread really annoying to read.

particle · Post by **particle** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:44 am

Tone Deft wrote:
particle wrote:i do not know who dawkins is but i think that everyone should create their own religion. i dont think that religion has to involve some kind of god. i think that atheism is just as dogmatic as christianity becasue it is disbelief and disbelief is just as closed off as belief. the fact is we dont know how existance exists. obviously, the earth was not created 10,000 years ago, but if you think about what life is, one of the conclusions you might come to is that life is the universe looking in the mirror. that makes sense becasue we are made from the universe. if life is a way for the universe to observe its self, then maybe evolution is the process of some kind of awareness that is binded to the universe or maybe even the creator of the universe manifesting its self into its own creation. that would fit in with why so much life happens in fractal patterns as well and why the universe appears to be infinite. also, the subatomic particles that electrons are made from are rapidly teleproting in and out of this dimention as far as we know. where do they go? maybe that has something to do with seemingly psychic intuition.....im not saying i believe this but the possibilities would appear to me limitless when we are still half evolved apes that cant comprehend how anything is here in the first place...but yeah..christianity is stupid and full of shit...it wasnt even invented untill 200 years after jesus died.
Agnostics are atheists without balls. Big, meaty, saucy, balls covered in a
tangy tomato sauce.

Please cut it out with the HUGE pics, it makes the thread really annoying to read.

no, agnostics are smarter than atheists. athiests believe that there is no creator to the universe. if you beleive something, that means you dont think much about it. if you dont think much about something, you have no way of making an accurate guess.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:17 am

particle wrote:no, agnostics are smarter than atheists. athiests believe that there is no
creator to the universe. if you beleive something, that means you dont think
much about it. if you dont think much about something, you have no way of
making an accurate guess.

Anyone else want to deal with the kid? I'm rolling my
eyes out over here. He means well but sooooo
doesn't get it. Can some kind soul help him? Even if
you disagree with me, he's ripe for the picking.

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:20 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/us/27 ... yt&emc=rss

Who wants to push for another 70 pages?

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:26 am

sqook wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/us/27 ... yt&emc=rss
Who wants to push for another 70 pages?

All that and they can't tell me who shot Biggie Smalls after a Tyson fight on the Vegas strip.

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:28 am

Tone Deft wrote:
sqook wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/us/27 ... yt&emc=rss
Who wants to push for another 70 pages?
All that and they can't tell me who shot Biggie Smalls after a Tyson fight on the Vegas strip.

If Jesus was black/non-white, it would be the same story.

Oh wait.... he was!