Looping pads is a P.I.T.A.

[jb61264]

So I'm wanting to have this pad loop between two pair of notes back and forth for an ambient background and it is so hard to get a smooth transition....anybody have any trade secrets for making a smooth pad loop?

[Pitch Black]

Is this an audio loop or a midi sequence?

[Spiralgroove]

use 2 tracks and render it with the decay on and overlap the chords

[b0unce]

So I'm wanting to have this pad loop between two pair of notes back and forth for an ambient background and it is so hard to get a smooth transition....anybody have any trade secrets for making a smooth pad loop?

say your midi clip is 4 bars long....erase the notes from the final two bars. Now render/record the 4 bars. Duplicate the audio clip. Start one, after two bars start the other (in another track!)....


if i catch your drift ?

[Pitch Black]

If it's audio, lay it up on the Arrange Page with crossfades drawn in, then render to disk. The highlighted area, Bars 2-6, will be a sample-accurate loop you can then drag back into your project.

[Tone Deft]

Good time to remind the Abes to give us curve drawing on envelopes.

Please please please, gimme gimme gimme.



PB - Any tricks to cover bad transitions up? Or is that something one learns to get good at?

[Pitch Black]

Um, make it wet with delay or reverb?

[cosmosuave]

So I'm wanting to have this pad loop between two pair of notes back and forth for an ambient background and it is so hard to get a smooth transition....anybody have any trade secrets for making a smooth pad loop?

This is for a 4 Bar Loop... Any loop length will work..


1. Start a midi clip...Plot your notes..
2. Rec your synth dry no fx if you have lfo going on make sure it is syncd to Lives clock...
3. If a 4 bar loop record 8 bars or more
4. In the record track take note of the loop time from start to the end of the 4th bar..
5. Take rec clip and edit in an audio editor (Soundforge or whatever)...
6. Now with the loop length time known delete the first part of the clip...
7. Now highlight the clip from the new edited start point and make the end point the desired loop length..
8. Hit loop play on your editor and it should loop seamlessly you may have to do a micro fade in and out at the strat and end points...
9. Save clip and bring back into Live and add Fx...

This method works well if your pad starts off with a slow attack.... If you only record for 4 bars you would get the slow attack rise looping all the time ... Not a bad thing but the loop without the slow attack works better on a short loop..

Kapiche..

[cosmosuave]

Good time to remind the Abes to give us curve drawing on envelopes.

Please please please, gimme gimme gimme.



PB - Any tricks to cover bad transitions up? Or is that something one learns to get good at?

No shit... That was one thing that bothered me when I jumped ship from Acid 4.0 to Live 3.0..I mean how hard is that to implement.. So I take it that since I'm still using 4.0 that it is not to be found on 6.x

[Tone Deft]

If it's a synth, play with the ADSR envelope, change the attack and release knobs so they blend well.

If it's audio, drop it in Simpler and do the same.

[jb61264]

Is this an audio loop or a midi sequence?

it's an audio loop i'm recording from one of my synths

[jb61264]

holy crap...so many good recommendations!

[cosmosuave]

Is this an audio loop or a midi sequence?

it's an audio loop i'm recording from one of my synths

If your sequencing it then try my method it'll work...

[jb61264]

So I'm wanting to have this pad loop between two pair of notes back and forth for an ambient background and it is so hard to get a smooth transition....anybody have any trade secrets for making a smooth pad loop?

say your midi clip is 4 bars long....erase the notes from the final two bars. Now render/record the 4 bars. Duplicate the audio clip. Start one, after two bars start the other (in another track!)....


if i catch your drift ?

this is an interesting approach...however, I might try it in reverse of your suggestion...when I start recording my synth pad there is an initial build (attack), then when I alternate between the two chords i don't have that...i wonder if erasing the first two notes would help smooth it out better.

[jb61264]

Is this an audio loop or a midi sequence?

it's an audio loop i'm recording from one of my synths

If your sequencing it then try my method it'll work...

I'm trying your method now...thanks!