OT: 9/11 - many reports of wtc7 collapse BEFORE IT HAPPENS!

[rasputin]

I gave up long ago trying to rationally argue people out of their conspiracy theories. From UFOs to the JFK assassination to the "fake Moon landing" to Conspiracy 58 == it will never end.

So basically, just check out Gene Ray's work, relax and enjoy

http://www.timecube.com/

[andydes]

Aye, but even so, I don't see the need for them to bring down the buildings with explosives. It would have been a dramatic enough attack even if the buildings remained standing (maybe they thought they would).

It's just so much easier and safer to keep the chain of events as close to the official line as posible.

I haven't seen anything really to convince me the building were demollished. But I've heard plenty of other fishy things happening that day.

btw: Pull (out of) the building, perhaps?[/quote]

[andydes]

I gave up long ago trying to rationally argue people out of their conspiracy theories. From UFOs to the JFK assassination to the "fake Moon landing" to Conspiracy 58 == it will never end.

So basically, just check out Gene Ray's work, relax and enjoy

http://www.timecube.com/

Well there's certainly plenty of real conspiracies out there. Someone's got to look into them, we can go around thinking that everything we're told is true. But you need to look at the right things, there's no point clinging on to tenuous theories that don't fit the facts like some people do.

UFOs were real, they just happened to be built by lockhead martin.

[The Phat Conductor]

UFOs were real, they just happened to be built by lockhead martin.

dingdingding!

'aliens' are weapons of mass distraction!

[dango]

Aye, but even so, I don't see the need for them to bring down the buildings with explosives. It would have been a dramatic enough attack even if the buildings remained standing (maybe they thought they would).

It's just so much easier and safer to keep the chain of events as close to the official line as posible.

I haven't seen anything really to convince me the building were demollished. But I've heard plenty of other fishy things happening that day.

btw: Pull (out of) the building, perhaps?

[/quote]

well there was very good reason for those towers to come down. one is the billions of dollars in insurance money paid out to the lease holder. he battled the insurance company in court over his 3.5 billion dollar insurance policy that protected against acts of terrorism saying each plane counted as a seperate act.

also the whole building was coated in asbestos. all the fire coating placed on the steel during construction was made of it. the epa let the port authority who used to own the building slide for a whiler, but it did need to be fixed eventually. estimated cost: over 1 billion dollars.

and trhe countless amounts of financial records that were lost, including thousands of case files against enron and world com from a security company in tower 7. the 7 billion dollar california blackout scandall was gone, up in smoke.

the fact that tower 7 came down is not right. if you think that building came down from a fire you are a complete idiot who deep down does not want to believe that one of his precious fellow americans would do such thing in the name of financial gain and power and control. do you think these tyrants give a shit about the people? have you been paying any attention the last 6 years?

[sweetjesus]

Aye, but even so, I don't see the need for them to bring down the buildings with explosives. It would have been a dramatic enough attack even if the buildings remained standing (maybe they thought they would).

It's just so much easier and safer to keep the chain of events as close to the official line as posible.

I haven't seen anything really to convince me the building were demollished. But I've heard plenty of other fishy things happening that day.

btw: Pull (out of) the building, perhaps?

well there was very good reason for those towers to come down. one is the billions of dollars in insurance money paid out to the lease holder. he battled the insurance company in court over his 3.5 billion dollar insurance policy that protected against acts of terrorism saying each plane counted as a seperate act.

also the whole building was coated in asbestos. all the fire coating placed on the steel during construction was made of it. the epa let the port authority who used to own the building slide for a whiler, but it did need to be fixed eventually. estimated cost: over 1 billion dollars.

and trhe countless amounts of financial records that were lost, including thousands of case files against enron and world com from a security company in tower 7. the 7 billion dollar california blackout scandall was gone, up in smoke.

the fact that tower 7 came down is not right. if you think that building came down from a fire you are a complete idiot who deep down does not want to believe that one of his precious fellow americans would do such thing in the name of financial gain and power and control. do you think these tyrants give a shit about the people? have you been paying any attention the last 6 years?[/quote]

im on the 'left' but i do think its plausible that the foundations would have been considerably weaker after having two monoliths tumple down next to you... but i too smell a rat.

[Landser]

Mexico, Lousitania, Pearl Harbour, WTC.
Sadly people are naive enough to believe, that the only power leading war after war, without being attacked by others, after 200 years ruling the whole world, is always forced to defend itself and only wants to bring peace...
The most efficient tyranny is the tyranny, people don't recognize.

[glu]

well there was very good reason for those towers to come down. one is the billions of dollars in insurance money paid out to the lease holder. he battled the insurance company in court over his 3.5 billion dollar insurance policy that protected against acts of terrorism saying each plane counted as a seperate act.

also the whole building was coated in asbestos. all the fire coating placed on the steel during construction was made of it. the epa let the port authority who used to own the building slide for a whiler, but it did need to be fixed eventually. estimated cost: over 1 billion dollars.

and trhe countless amounts of financial records that were lost, including thousands of case files against enron and world com from a security company in tower 7. the 7 billion dollar california blackout scandall was gone, up in smoke.

the fact that tower 7 came down is not right. if you think that building came down from a fire you are a complete idiot who deep down does not want to believe that one of his precious fellow americans would do such thing in the name of financial gain and power and control. do you think these tyrants give a shit about the people? have you been paying any attention the last 6 years?

Spot on. What kills me inside is how they are all getting away with it- murder, fraud, international crimes... it makes me sick to my stomach. I seriously can fathom the fall of this state...
not unlike the Mayans, Romans, Byzantines, etc..
cash in while you can you fucking aristocratics!

[jeskola]

I seriously can fathom the fall of this state...
not unlike the Mayans, Romans, Byzantines, etc..
cash in while you can you fucking aristocratics!

those will be very dark days, and i can imagine we'll all go too.

[Landser]

cash in while you can you fucking aristocratics!

Aristocratics?
Plutocrats!

[jeskola]

now the BBC has had to make a comment about that video

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2 ... iracy.html

[dango]

so it was not a green screen.

i never thought the bbc was in on it, they new no better, but why announce a building fell when a building had never fallen from fires before. why not say another buildin fell too.

im on the 'left' but i do think its plausible that the foundations would have been considerably weaker after having two monoliths tumple down next to you... but i too smell a rat.

so you know, WTC towers 3,4,5,6 were right under the two towers, they were completley smashed by the full drop of the two main towers, but they did not collapse. they had to be domolished. sorry, but buildings do not just collapse like tower 7 did, unless they were demolished. that goes for the main towers as well.

[dango]

and that is the most bullshit explanation the bbc gave. they lost the original footage so they can not look to see what we are all speaking of? wahtever

[pilcrow]

Mexico, Lousitania, Pearl Harbour, WTC.
Sadly people are naive enough to believe, that the only power leading war after war, without being attacked by others, after 200 years ruling the whole world, is always forced to defend itself and only wants to bring peace...
The most efficient tyranny is the tyranny, people don't recognize.

I learn so much from this forum!
That's why, try as I may, I can't stay away!

[NorthernMonkey]

now the BBC has had to make a comment about that video

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2 ... iracy.html

'We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy).'