Live's Reverb?

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What do you think of the Reverb effect that comes with Live

Very Good Indeed
24
13%
OK, but other reverbs are better
70
39%
Good for some things, bad for others
62
35%
Plain horrible
23
13%
 
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Live's Reverb?

Post by sebovzeoueb » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:26 am

I was just wondering what you people think of Live's reverb? I don't find it sounds very good, but then I have little experience of other reverbs. I find it's ok for mangling things with loads of reverb, and ukulele, guitar and mandolin sound quite good with this reverb, but for things such as vocals I find it doesn't sound very good. Is this just me not using all the settings to their full extent, or is it not a very good reverb?
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Post by Angstrom » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:49 am

I didn't vote 'horrible', but I should because it has some terrible problems.
I want everyone to try something here, something that may scare you If you use it as a default effect.

1: play a mono wave on a track, put a utility on that track.

2: now on a return channel - put a live reverb with a long decay and set to wet 100%

3: now send the wave to the reverb - hear a big reverb yes?

4: press the phase invert button on one side of the utility.

5: reverb disapeared?

Live's reverb is in glorious mono
... that's why. The two mono channels with one inverted, L-R, going to a stereo reverb should still output reverb. But in a mono effect L-R = 0.

A mono reverb. Not exactly a workhorse, go-to effect that. Not since about 1979 anyway.
I reported this during L5 beta testing and was told that Ableton were aware of the issue, but that forum has long gone now. I mentioned it again during L6 beta testing.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ght=reverb

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Post by 3dot... » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:57 am

use it as an EFFECT on synths (usually with the FREEZE function) to give the sound a certain color not an echo....
It works for some stuff while it just plain sucks for others...
When I a/b the live rev against my waves IR-l, live's reverb sounds awfull,
...even if a minute ago I though it sounded nice... (like the freeze funct. though) :P

so there you go... fun to play around with....
but when it comes down to closing the mix - Would not use it as my primary goto reverberation effect...
...but that's just me

(would love to see them make it better as Most of the effects I DO use on for mixes are live's' built in ones... )
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Post by Tarekith » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:57 am

:lol:


That's funny!

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Post by 3dot... » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:08 am

OK, it sucks...
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Post by IanBuzz » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:43 am

Yeah it sux donkey ballz --- Logic Pro has a bad ass built in Reverb (Spacedesigner)

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Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:05 am

ehh, it is pretty weak.
Gotta love the freeze feature though.




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Post by ploy » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:48 am

it sounds really trashy, which can be really good for a few things. the contradiction is between the very nice ways of setting it up and the bad sound/processing quality. maybe they get a better balance some day.

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Post by Steve Christian » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:20 pm

Never use Live's reverb. If I'm in Live I use "Zrev" from Urs and in Logic I use SpaceDesigner.

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Post by Dr. Zoiberg » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:38 pm

Angstrom wrote:Live's reverb is in glorious mono[/b] ... that's why. The two mono channels with one inverted, L-R, going to a stereo reverb should still output reverb. But in a mono effect L-R = 0.
So why is there a "stereo" parameter?

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Post by b0unce » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:45 pm

anyone tried the altiverb 6 demo ?
now thats a tastey vst reverb...
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Post by NorthernMonkey » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:47 pm

b0unce wrote:anyone tried the altiverb 6 demo ?
now thats a tastey vst reverb...
I've got altiverb 5.something.something, can't remember, but it sounds fucking sweet, comes with loads of presets and really does sound authentic. Live's reverb is ok if you need a synthetic sounding reverb, but the altiverb, to me, is the best convultion reverb out there.
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Post by muscleandhate » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:08 pm

Waves 5, the reverb in that suite is totally awesome.

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Post by NorthernMonkey » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:12 pm

muscleandhate wrote:Waves 5, the reverb in that suite is totally awesome.
Sure, it's a decent reverb, I had the waves before I got the altiverb, but the altivetb totally destroys the trueverb
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Post by Tarekith » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:17 pm

Another vote for Zrev.

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