Professional Vinyl Digitising - UK?

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Professional Vinyl Digitising - UK?

Post by Out Of My System » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:45 pm

Is there anyone doing a service that will digitise your vinyl for a fee? I don't mean a crappy record deck with a worn needle, but a professional outfit with nice equipment. Would appreciate any info - thanks.

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:07 pm

not a very popular service.

I tried to start one here in the states.

No one wants to pay more than like $10/per.

they don't realize it takes pro equipment, and demands a professional rate.

you are probably better off doing it yourself, or searching out digital formats.

good luck
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Post by Out Of My System » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:48 pm

I can imagine. But everyone and their dog is digitising their collections and flogging them on Ebay and I have a bunch of stuff I'm willing to pay to have done properly. Maybe the dubplate houses and record stores themselves could plow in here. Think of the DJ's you know and how much vinyl they have.

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:15 pm

I'm digitizing my own, and flogging them off on ebay.


I do 6- 10 records per day, some singles some lps.

I only list stuff that fetches more than 20 $us
for lots of great records, check out,
http://stores.ebay.com/id=64360994?ssPageName=ME:F:ST

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Post by compositeone » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:35 am

I find it sad you guys are ditching vinyl, it will always sound better no matter how pro the equipment. :roll:

Do you lot do the same with CDs, go buy them, rip them then sell them on?
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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:45 pm

i don't buy cd's , unless there is no vinyl option.


I have over 7000 pieces of vinyl, and i am keeping the majority of them
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Post by nuperspective » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:24 am

another issue is no matter how good the equipment some of my 12" are well played and that will show on the digitized version. so there a lot involved in bringing the quality out of the recording. its really not as easy as it sounds to do correctly. im well up for it as i have loads of classic tracks i want to chop in ableton. it just finding the right person and price. there is definately a demand now.

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Post by Deft » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:49 am

If you ran a service like this, everyone would come back going "It's not as LOUD as my digital files"........

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Post by kugutsumen » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:32 am

compositeone wrote:I find it sad you guys are ditching vinyl, it will always sound better no matter how pro the equipment. :roll:

Do you lot do the same with CDs, go buy them, rip them then sell them on?
In some countries you can just buy them, rip them, and return them to the store for a refund saying it's shit.

I used to that for really shitty video games and shitty movies.

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Post by wilxon » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:18 am

Out Of My System wrote:I can imagine. But everyone and their dog is digitising their collections and flogging them on Ebay and I have a bunch of stuff I'm willing to pay to have done properly. Maybe the dubplate houses and record stores themselves could plow in here. Think of the DJ's you know and how much vinyl they have.
To convert 1 vinyl with 4 x 5minute tracks on it into WAV format, the starting price would be £30 , providing the quality of the vinyl is as good as you need it to be. This is based on a price of £10 per 1/2 hour and includes a blank CD and postage of the vinyl and CD back to you.

Firstly, there is the cost of maintaining equipment which ill overlook for this excersise.

Then there is the physical recording of the vynil onto a digital medium, this will take 30 - 45 minutes including system boot up and desk configuring.

Then when recorded there is the Re-mastering and audio quality clean up.

If the quality of the vinyl is good, then this could be a case of simple EQ and normalising and boosting the signal to sound like (and as loud as) it would on CD. this will take between 1/2 to 1 hour.

if the quality is not so good and pops/crackles, then it can take any amount of time to get rid of that. if there are generally a few pops and a couple of crackles i would estimate this to take around 2-4 hours per 4 tracks which will need to be added to the time of the previous point.

Lastly there is the chopping and arranging the individual tracks and saving them as Wav format, and assumng you want the raw files writing to DVD or CD, this will take another 1/2 hour per 4 tracks.

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Post by kugutsumen » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:33 am

wilxon wrote: If the quality of the vinyl is good, then this could be a case of simple EQ and normalising and boosting the signal to sound like (and as loud as) it would on CD. this will take between 1/2 to 1 hour.
Do you warp the songs as well?

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Post by wilxon » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:41 am

Yes can do,

Work on the basis of £10 per 1/2 hour.

Hard to say how long each track will take, but a modern 4x4 dance track from a perfect vynil with no (physical) warping and should take about 30 seconds.

on the other hand if its an 80's tune like "Dont You" from INXS, took me about 45 mns to warp it properly.

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Post by wilxon » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:52 am

Rogue Scrunt wrote:I'm digitizing my own, and flogging them off on ebay.


I do 6- 10 records per day, some singles some lps.

I only list stuff that fetches more than 20 $us

This is called PIRACY isnt it.

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:58 am

Deft wrote:If you ran a service like this, everyone would come back going "It's not as LOUD as my digital files"........
no they wouldn't I have been doing this for 10 years now.
for lots of great records, check out,
http://stores.ebay.com/id=64360994?ssPageName=ME:F:ST

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:02 am

wilxon wrote:
Rogue Scrunt wrote:I'm digitizing my own, and flogging them off on ebay.



This is called PIRACY isnt it.
call it what you will, I am entitled to make back ups of my media.

most I keep.

the ones I sell, of course I am obligated to erase from my hard drive. :wink:
for lots of great records, check out,
http://stores.ebay.com/id=64360994?ssPageName=ME:F:ST

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