Meta Files: Uncovering the .ams format

Rinko · Post by **Rinko** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:24 pm

hey

i've mailed em you with some further explanation - hope it helps!

cheers for lookin into it for me!!!!

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:39 pm

Ok, found the problem i think.
The difference between your AMS files and others is the following:

The working files are .txt files with the .txt extension changed to .ams

The files you sent me are labeled as "TextEditor documents".

All i've done to "fix" the files you sent me is clicking a button in my texteditor that says "convert to plain text". Resaved the files under exactly the same name you used.

I've sent you the fixed files.

Cheers

- Bjorn

Rinko · Post by **Rinko** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:56 pm

ah magic!

didn't realise sorry - thought the ones i had were just txt files.

thanks for your help!!!!

opuswerk · Post by **opuswerk** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:06 am

I really enjoyed your tutorials, but could you please explain a bit more how to generate basic waves, such as triangle saws and rectangles (although you did explain that one

) as I am a bit lost in the maths involved in this

Thanks for bringing this up btw, as it seems its something very few live users are using...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:50 am

opuswerk wrote:I really enjoyed your tutorials, but could you please explain a bit more how to generate basic waves, such as triangle saws and rectangles (although you did explain that one ) as I am a bit lost in the maths involved in this

Thanks for bringing this up btw, as it seems its something very few live users are using...

To be honest, I didn't bother with learning the maths involved here. I just draw my waveforms in a Java applet and use those values to create AMS files.

http://www.falstad.com/fourier/

opuswerk · Post by **opuswerk** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:55 am

will play around with this then. a pity it doesn't pay sound on my comp......

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:18 pm

so uh..

that ams generator, wheres that gone to now?
cause the site says that its just not there, and i wouldnt mind playing around with it a bit.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:12 pm

friend_kami wrote:so uh..

that ams generator, wheres that gone to now?
cause the site says that its just not there, and i wouldnt mind playing around with it a bit.

All I really got is this:

Nik Reiman (Sqook) built it for me before he started working for a software company. Since then he hasn't had time to finish it.
The app in its current shape only works on OSX and isn't nearly as fancy as the one recently released for PC.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98303

Its good to create a single AMS file manually in a list editor. It can take one AMS file and create a whole set from 0 to 127. But then it crashes or freezes and may need a force quit. So it isn't something I can just release into the wild.
On the other hand, its just sitting there and some people may not mind that it crashes all the time.
I'll see if I can get a hold of Sqook and ask if he minds if I make his app available.

opuswerk · Post by **opuswerk** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:22 pm

I still have mams for osx if anyone's interested i can up it somewhere...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:57 am

friend_kami wrote:so uh..

that ams generator, wheres that gone to now?
cause the site says that its just not there, and i wouldnt mind playing around with it a bit.

It's online. Though be warned, its buggy as hell.

http://www.covops.org/index.php/Freebie ... ation.html

evnthrizn · Post by **evnthrizn** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:56 am

opuswerk wrote:I still have mams for osx if anyone's interested i can up it somewhere...

i know this is an old post, but if you still have that, i'd like that. i just got really delving into this and it isn't anywhere since robert henke's site is different.

rawore · Post by **rawore** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:42 pm

didn't work for me (404'd). what was the file name?

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Tone Deft wrote:
Robert Henke wrote:Hello !

For Live 6 we defined a smal new file format, called Ableton Meta Sound, .ams
This file format currently does nothing but allow to create static, looping waveforms for the use in Sampler / Simpler. These waveforms are constructed using additive synthesis, when loading an .ams file. The charm of the .ams is the fact that they are super smal, since the only contain text and no audio.

Here is a quite experimental MaxPatch which can be used to create such files:

http://monolake.de/downloads/download_software.html

The patch needs MaxMSP / MaxMSPRuntime in order to work.
Have fun....

Robert
That was from the 6 beta forum, looks like Henke moved the file but the link above is correct.

rawore · Post by **rawore** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:04 pm

also note covert operators site changed, you can find the original articles with search...

http://www.thecovertoperators.org/Searc ... ta+ableton

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:14 pm

I still have the original file including the readme. Hold on...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:16 pm

rawore wrote:also note covert operators site changed, you can find the original articles with search...

http://www.thecovertoperators.org/Searc ... ta+ableton

Cheers for the reminder. I updated the links in the first post.

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