Taking Ableton Live Back to the store

sopreezy · Post by **sopreezy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:10 am

My first night with Ableton... *Sighing* and I like it. It's not cutting it on my laptop though guys. On my laptop it stutter's and it's slow as hell. Again here's the laptop I have, http://www.uberbargain.com/archives/200 ... 03wlci.php

i have it maxed at 2 GB's and it still struggles. Ableton is a CPU hog. I might take it back. I don't know what to do. Now more money to spend on a desktop. This is ridiculous.... The latency/midi delay problem. Reason and Fruity Loops are more user friendly and take up way less CPU Power. I might send this back to Ableton to get my money back. Maybe it's my laptop? I do like 8 midi tracks using Albino 3 and my laptop freezes. I optimized Windows XP. I have delay compensation on. I downloaded new ASIO drivers. What to do....

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:17 am

"I do like 8 midi tracks using Albino 3 and my laptop freezes"

did you ever think that might be your problem?

However, I think you're right, I'd send it back and just use Reason.

3rdordertrauma · Post by **3rdordertrauma** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:49 am

IMO Ableton is not the most resourceful when it comes to CPU... but... Albino 3 is one of the hungriest synths I own. I rarely use it because of this. I find it similar to NI's Massive in CPU consumption.

What sample/bit rates are you working at?

I say the problem is not Ableton so much as Albino. Or not so much Ableton or Albino as much as a $600 dollar laptop. I'm sorry... I understand you may not have loads of money to spend on a computer... but if you are serious about making music on the computer my recommendation would be to buy a computer thats up to the task.

evernaut · Post by **evernaut** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:16 am

Why not try economising as other posters suggest and use less plugs?

And maybe give it more than a night's trial

?

FWIW - I'm running Live on a very old Mac and, as long as you get creative with your cpu limitations, you can still have much fun.

dodgyedgy · Post by **dodgyedgy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:55 am

sopreezy wrote:My first night with Ableton... *Sighing* and I like it. It's not cutting it on my laptop though guys. On my laptop it stutter's and it's slow as hell. Again here's the laptop I have, http://www.uberbargain.com/archives/200 ... 03wlci.php

i have it maxed at 2 GB's and it still struggles. Ableton is a CPU hog. I might take it back. I don't know what to do. Now more money to spend on a desktop. This is ridiculous.... The latency/midi delay problem. Reason and Fruity Loops are more user friendly and take up way less CPU Power. I might send this back to Ableton to get my money back. Maybe it's my laptop? I do like 8 midi tracks using Albino 3 and my laptop freezes. I optimized Windows XP. I have delay compensation on. I downloaded new ASIO drivers. What to do....

"Learn something about computers" might be a good start.

@ 8 Albino 3's

And learn to use the 'Freeze' function.

darkcatt · Post by **darkcatt** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:47 pm

dodgyedgy wrote:
sopreezy wrote:My first night with Ableton... *Sighing* and I like it. It's not cutting it on my laptop though guys. On my laptop it stutter's and it's slow as hell. Again here's the laptop I have, http://www.uberbargain.com/archives/200 ... 03wlci.php

i have it maxed at 2 GB's and it still struggles. Ableton is a CPU hog. I might take it back. I don't know what to do. Now more money to spend on a desktop. This is ridiculous.... The latency/midi delay problem. Reason and Fruity Loops are more user friendly and take up way less CPU Power. I might send this back to Ableton to get my money back. Maybe it's my laptop? I do like 8 midi tracks using Albino 3 and my laptop freezes. I optimized Windows XP. I have delay compensation on. I downloaded new ASIO drivers. What to do....
"Learn something about computers" might be a good start.

@ 8 Albino 3's

And learn to use the 'Freeze' function.

+1

also get ashampoo win optimizer demo. GO into the tuners and click the start up tuner. Stop all the Bloatware from poppong on start up and restart your PC. you might be amazed at the difference.

dru · Post by **dru** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:48 pm

What they said. 8 tracks of Albino3? Why for?

Freeze is your friend.

What ASIO drivers are you using? Have you tried www.asio4all.com?

darkcatt · Post by **darkcatt** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:50 pm

I have a problem with NI bandstand slowing me down, and crashing once I hit 12 instances. Massive will do the same thing.

Freeze my friend, and not the bad Arnold Schwart. roll in Bat Man either.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:52 pm

sopreezy wrote:My first night with Ableton... *Sighing* and I like it. It's not cutting it on my laptop though guys. On my laptop it stutter's and it's slow as hell. Again here's the laptop I have, http://www.uberbargain.com/archives/200 ... 03wlci.php

i have it maxed at 2 GB's and it still struggles. Ableton is a CPU hog. I might take it back. I don't know what to do. Now more money to spend on a desktop. This is ridiculous.... The latency/midi delay problem. Reason and Fruity Loops are more user friendly and take up way less CPU Power. I might send this back to Ableton to get my money back. Maybe it's my laptop? I do like 8 midi tracks using Albino 3 and my laptop freezes. I optimized Windows XP. I have delay compensation on. I downloaded new ASIO drivers. What to do....

You can't return software.

quitters never win

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:15 pm

in the states, you cannot return software, once it is open.

I don't know about EU, they have consumer protection laws

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:21 pm

+18 for freeze tracks

And I'm not a Reason hater or lover but I am always amazed when somebody says it's user friendly. As somebody who has used sequencers before there was even hard disk recording I have attempted to use Reason several times and I just didn't get it or maybe just didn't find the work flow very inspiring. It just seems like an overly complex loop making machine.

darkcatt · Post by **darkcatt** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:23 pm

beats me wrote:+18 for freeze tracks

And I'm not a Reason hater or lover but I am always amazed when somebody says it's user friendly. As somebody who has used sequencers before there was even hard disk recording I have attempted to use Reason several times and I just didn't get it or maybe just didn't find the work flow very inspiring. It just seems like an overly complex loop making machine.

wow I agree, I have it and I ended up using it with a patch to unpack refills, and use em in live

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:31 pm

Rogue Scrunt wrote:in the states, you cannot return software, once it is open.

I don't know about EU, they have consumer protection laws

It's the same.....

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:37 pm

darkcatt wrote:
beats me wrote:+18 for freeze tracks

And I'm not a Reason hater or lover but I am always amazed when somebody says it's user friendly. As somebody who has used sequencers before there was even hard disk recording I have attempted to use Reason several times and I just didn't get it or maybe just didn't find the work flow very inspiring. It just seems like an overly complex loop making machine.

wow I agree, I have it and I ended up using it with a patch to unpack refills, and use em in live

if you've ever used racks of hardware, then Reason is the easiest to figure out. If you started in Fruity Loops or Acid, then Reason will seem awkward.
To the original poster, use Reason for 80% of what you do, then use Albino for the sounds that Reason cannot really pull off. That way you can use a cheap laptop, and work with Live. Live is much better than Reason for arranging I think....

tjwett · Post by **tjwett** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:08 pm

try to find a used copy of Live 3, runs like a champ!

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