New Plugin For Ableton! Lighting , in development

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ava
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Post by ava » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:37 pm

Heres a latest screenshot of one of our plugins, 8 channel fx,
used for pan, tilt of scanners, strobe speeds ect:

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jlee462
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MAC MAC MAC

Post by jlee462 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:16 am

You really need this to get Mac compatible......please....

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Re: MAC MAC MAC

Post by ava » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:05 pm

jlee462 wrote:You really need this to get Mac compatible......please....
If that happens it will be a while, not got a mac and would need to learn new stuff. Well see what we can do but no promises.

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Post by ava » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:08 pm

Heres a screenshot of the 3 plugins were be providing, still got lots to do to 8 channel fx and Vu Meter.

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Post by ava » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:19 pm

I present here our Master Output Plugin, goes on the master output track within ableton. Gives you an at a glace view of your lighting setup and access to device on/off button and DMX Crossfader.

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Post by ava » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:18 pm

Were currently busy creating our new AVA Media Codec, which is 100% backward compatable with Vorbis Audio codec and Theora video codec so playback works in majority of existing media players.

Were introducing a standard DMX mapping for lighting outlined below. The reason for this is, if anyone wishes to release an AVA Track there want it to be able to be played on as many systems as possible so a standard is needed just as a PC/MAC or DVD player has 2/3/5 or 7 speakers. This standard mapping is optional so can also map anyway the producer wishes to create custom AVA Tracks.

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* AVA Codec & AVA Lighting Studio                 *
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* (c)Copyright 2008 AVA Developments              *
*-------------------------------------------------*
* website avacodec.com                            *
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AVA Standard DMX Mapping version 0.1 Beta

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--- Center Stage ----------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt


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--- Left Stage ------------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt
1 Strobe Light
1 Smoke Machine

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--- Right Stage -----------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt
1 Strobe Light
1 Smoke Machine

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--- Center Dance Floor ----------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt


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--- Left Dance Floor ------------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt
1 Strobe Light
1 Smoke Machine

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--- Right Dance Floor -----------------------------------
8 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt
1 Strobe Light
1 Smoke Machine

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-- Bar --------------------------------------------

16 RGB Lamps with or without pan/tilt

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--- Lasers ----------------------------------------

4 Lasers (any position)

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-------------------  Mappings ---------------------

Start from DMX channel 000

000 RESERVED

--- Stage Left ------------------------------------------------
Left 1 Red
Left 1 Green
Left 1 Blue
Left 1 Pan
Left 1 Tilt
Left 1 User 1
Left 1 User 2
Left 1 User 3

Left 2 Red
Left 2 Green
Left 2 Blue
Left 2 Pan
Left 2 Tilt
Left 2 User 1
Left 2 User 2
Left 2 User 3

Left 3 Red
Left 3 Green
Left 3 Blue
Left 3 Pan
Left 3 Tilt
Left 3 User 1
Left 3 User 2
Left 3 User 3

Left 4 Red
Left 4 Green
Left 4 Blue
Left 4 Pan
Left 4 Tilt
Left 4 User 1
Left 4 User 2
Left 4 User 3

Left 5 Red
Left 5 Green
Left 5 Blue
Left 5 Pan
Left 5 Tilt
Left 5 User 1
Left 5 User 2
Left 5 User 3

Left 6 Red
Left 6 Green
Left 6 Blue
Left 6 Pan
Left 6 Tilt
Left 6 User 1
Left 6 User 2
Left 6 User 3

Left 7 Red
Left 7 Green
Left 7 Blue
Left 7 Pan
Left 7 Tilt
Left 7 User 1
Left 7 User 2
Left 7 User 3

Left 8 Red
Left 8 Green
Left 8 Blue
Left 8 Pan
Left 8 Tilt
Left 8 User 1
Left 8 User 2
Left 8 User 3


--- Stage Right --------------------------------------------
Right 1 Red
Right 1 Green
Right 1 Blue
Right 1 Pan
Right 1 Tilt
Right 1 User 1
Right 1 User 2
Right 1 User 3

Right 2 Red
Right 2 Green
Right 2 Blue
Right 2 Pan
Right 2 Tilt
Right 2 User 1
Right 2 User 2
Right 2 User 3

Right 3 Red
Right 3 Green
Right 3 Blue
Right 3 Pan
Right 3 Tilt
Right 3 User 1
Right 3 User 2
Right 3 User 3

Right 4 Red
Right 4 Green
Right 4 Blue
Right 4 Pan
Right 4 Tilt
Right 4 User 1
Right 4 User 2
Right 4 User 3

Right 5 Red
Right 5 Green
Right 5 Blue
Right 5 Pan
Right 5 Tilt
Right 5 User 1
Right 5 User 2
Right 5 User 3

Right 6 Red
Right 6 Green
Right 6 Blue
Right 6 Pan
Right 6 Tilt
Right 6 User 1
Right 6 User 2
Right 6 User 3

Right 7 Red
Right 7 Green
Right 7 Blue
Right 7 Pan
Right 7 Tilt
Right 7 User 1
Right 7 User 2
Right 7 User 3

Right 8 Red
Right 8 Green
Right 8 Blue
Right 8 Pan
Right 8 Tilt
Right 8 User 1
Right 8 User 2
Right 8 User 3



Left StrobeSpeed
Left StrobeInt

Left Smoke

--- Stage Center ----------------------------------
Center 1 Red
Center 1 Green
Center 1 Blue
Center 1 Pan
Center 1 Tilt
Center 1 User 1
Center 1 User 2
Center 1 User 3

Center 2 Red
Center 2 Green
Center 2 Blue
Center 2 Pan
Center 2 Tilt
Center 2 User 1
Center 2 User 2
Center 2 User 3

Center 3 Red
Center 3 Green
Center 3 Blue
Center 3 Pan
Center 3 Tilt
Center 3 User 1
Center 3 User 2
Center 3 User 3

Center 4 Red
Center 4 Green
Center 4 Blue
Center 4 Pan
Center 4 Tilt
Center 4 User 1
Center 4 User 2
Center 4 User 3

Center 5 Red
Center 5 Green
Center 5 Blue
Center 5 Pan
Center 5 Tilt
Center 5 User 1
Center 5 User 2
Center 5 User 3

Center 6 Red
Center 6 Green
Center 6 Blue
Center 6 Pan
Center 6 Tilt
Center 6 User 1
Center 6 User 2
Center 6 User 3

Center 7 Red
Center 7 Green
Center 7 Blue
Center 7 Pan
Center 7 Tilt
Center 7 User 1
Center 7 User 2
Center 7 User 3

Center 8 Red
Center 8 Green
Center 8 Blue
Center 8 Pan
Center 8 Tilt
Center 8 User 1
Center 8 User 2
Center 8 User 3



Right StrobeSpeed
Right StrobeInt

Right Smoke

--- AVA Dance Floor Left / Stage 2 Left-----------------------------

Dance Floor 1 Red
Dance Floor 1 Green
Dance Floor 1 Blue
Dance Floor 1 Pan
Dance Floor 1 Tilt
Dance Floor 1 User1
Dance Floor 1 User2
Dance Floor 1 User3

Dance Floor 2 Red
Dance Floor 2 Green
Dance Floor 2 Blue
Dance Floor 2 Pan
Dance Floor 2 Tilt
Dance Floor 2 User1
Dance Floor 2 User2
Dance Floor 2 User3

Dance Floor 3 Red
Dance Floor 3 Green
Dance Floor 3 Blue
Dance Floor 3 Pan
Dance Floor 3 Tilt
Dance Floor 3 User1
Dance Floor 3 User2
Dance Floor 3 User3

Dance Floor 4 Red
Dance Floor 4 Green
Dance Floor 4 Blue
Dance Floor 4 Pan
Dance Floor 4 Tilt
Dance Floor 4 User1
Dance Floor 4 User2
Dance Floor 4 User3

Dance Floor 5 Red
Dance Floor 5 Green
Dance Floor 5 Blue
Dance Floor 5 Pan
Dance Floor 5 Tilt
Dance Floor 5 User1
Dance Floor 5 User2
Dance Floor 5 User3

Dance Floor 6 Red
Dance Floor 6 Green
Dance Floor 6 Blue
Dance Floor 6 Pan
Dance Floor 6 Tilt
Dance Floor 6 User1
Dance Floor 6 User2
Dance Floor 6 User3

Dance Floor 7 Red
Dance Floor 7 Green
Dance Floor 7 Blue
Dance Floor 7 Pan
Dance Floor 7 Tilt
Dance Floor 7 User1
Dance Floor 7 User2
Dance Floor 7 User3

Dance Floor 8 Red
Dance Floor 8 Green
Dance Floor 8 Blue
Dance Floor 8 Pan
Dance Floor 8 Tilt
Dance Floor 8 User1
Dance Floor 8 User2
Dance Floor 8 User3

--- AVA Dance Floor Right / Stage 2 Right-----------------------------

Dance Floor 1 Red
Dance Floor 1 Green
Dance Floor 1 Blue
Dance Floor 1 Pan
Dance Floor 1 Tilt
Dance Floor 1 User1
Dance Floor 1 User2
Dance Floor 1 User3

Dance Floor 2 Red
Dance Floor 2 Green
Dance Floor 2 Blue
Dance Floor 2 Pan
Dance Floor 2 Tilt
Dance Floor 2 User1
Dance Floor 2 User2
Dance Floor 2 User3

Dance Floor 3 Red
Dance Floor 3 Green
Dance Floor 3 Blue
Dance Floor 3 Pan
Dance Floor 3 Tilt
Dance Floor 3 User1
Dance Floor 3 User2
Dance Floor 3 User3

Dance Floor 4 Red
Dance Floor 4 Green
Dance Floor 4 Blue
Dance Floor 4 Pan
Dance Floor 4 Tilt
Dance Floor 4 User1
Dance Floor 4 User2
Dance Floor 4 User3

Dance Floor 5 Red
Dance Floor 5 Green
Dance Floor 5 Blue
Dance Floor 5 Pan
Dance Floor 5 Tilt
Dance Floor 5 User1
Dance Floor 5 User2
Dance Floor 5 User3

Dance Floor 6 Red
Dance Floor 6 Green
Dance Floor 6 Blue
Dance Floor 6 Pan
Dance Floor 6 Tilt
Dance Floor 6 User1
Dance Floor 6 User2
Dance Floor 6 User3

Dance Floor 7 Red
Dance Floor 7 Green
Dance Floor 7 Blue
Dance Floor 7 Pan
Dance Floor 7 Tilt
Dance Floor 7 User1
Dance Floor 7 User2
Dance Floor 7 User3

Dance Floor 8 Red
Dance Floor 8 Green
Dance Floor 8 Blue
Dance Floor 8 Pan
Dance Floor 8 Tilt
Dance Floor 8 User1
Dance Floor 8 User2
Dance Floor 8 User3

Dance Left StrobeSpeed
Dance Left StrobeInt

Dance Left Smoke

--- AVA Dance Floor Center / Stage 2 Center -----------------------------

Dance Floor 1 Red
Dance Floor 1 Green
Dance Floor 1 Blue
Dance Floor 1 Pan
Dance Floor 1 Tilt
Dance Floor 1 User1
Dance Floor 1 User2
Dance Floor 1 User3

Dance Floor 2 Red
Dance Floor 2 Green
Dance Floor 2 Blue
Dance Floor 2 Pan
Dance Floor 2 Tilt
Dance Floor 2 User1
Dance Floor 2 User2
Dance Floor 2 User3

Dance Floor 3 Red
Dance Floor 3 Green
Dance Floor 3 Blue
Dance Floor 3 Pan
Dance Floor 3 Tilt
Dance Floor 3 User1
Dance Floor 3 User2
Dance Floor 3 User3

Dance Floor 4 Red
Dance Floor 4 Green
Dance Floor 4 Blue
Dance Floor 4 Pan
Dance Floor 4 Tilt
Dance Floor 4 User1
Dance Floor 4 User2
Dance Floor 4 User3

Dance Floor 5 Red
Dance Floor 5 Green
Dance Floor 5 Blue
Dance Floor 5 Pan
Dance Floor 5 Tilt
Dance Floor 5 User1
Dance Floor 5 User2
Dance Floor 5 User3

Dance Floor 6 Red
Dance Floor 6 Green
Dance Floor 6 Blue
Dance Floor 6 Pan
Dance Floor 6 Tilt
Dance Floor 6 User1
Dance Floor 6 User2
Dance Floor 6 User3

Dance Floor 7 Red
Dance Floor 7 Green
Dance Floor 7 Blue
Dance Floor 7 Pan
Dance Floor 7 Tilt
Dance Floor 7 User1
Dance Floor 7 User2
Dance Floor 7 User3

Dance Floor 8 Red
Dance Floor 8 Green
Dance Floor 8 Blue
Dance Floor 8 Pan
Dance Floor 8 Tilt
Dance Floor 8 User1
Dance Floor 8 User2
Dance Floor 8 User3


Dance Right StrobeSpeed
Dance Right StrobeInt

Dance Right Smoke

--- AVA Bar / Stage 3 ------------------------------

Bar 1 Red
Bar 1 Green
Bar 1 Blue
Bar 1 Pan
Bar 1 Tilt
Bar 1 User1
Bar 1 User2
Bar 1 User3

Bar 2 Red
Bar 2 Green
Bar 2 Blue
Bar 2 Pan
Bar 2 Tilt
Bar 2 User1
Bar 2 User2
Bar 2 User3

Bar 3 Red
Bar 3 Green
Bar 3 Blue
Bar 3 Pan
Bar 3 Tilt
Bar 3 User1
Bar 3 User2
Bar 3 User3

Bar 4 Red
Bar 4 Green
Bar 4 Blue
Bar 4 Pan
Bar 4 Tilt
Bar 4 User1
Bar 4 User2
Bar 4 User3

Bar 5 Red
Bar 5 Green
Bar 5 Blue
Bar 5 Pan
Bar 5 Tilt
Bar 5 User1
Bar 5 User2
Bar 5 User3

Bar 6 Red
Bar 6 Green
Bar 6 Blue
Bar 6 Pan
Bar 6 Tilt
Bar 6 User1
Bar 6 User2
Bar 6 User3

Bar 7 Red
Bar 7 Green
Bar 7 Blue
Bar 7 Pan
Bar 7 Tilt
Bar 7 User1
Bar 7 User2
Bar 7 User3

Bar 8 Red
Bar 8 Green
Bar 8 Blue
Bar 8 Pan
Bar 8 Tilt
Bar 8 User1
Bar 8 User2
Bar 8 User3

--- Lasers ----------------------------------

Laser 1 User1
Laser 1 User2
Laser 1 User3
Laser 1 User4
Laser 1 User5
Laser 1 User6
Laser 1 User7
Laser 1 User8
Laser 1 User9
Laser 1 User10

Laser 2 User1
Laser 2 User2
Laser 2 User3
Laser 2 User4
Laser 2 User5
Laser 2 User6
Laser 2 User7
Laser 2 User8
Laser 2 User9
Laser 2 User10

Laser 3 User1
Laser 3 User2
Laser 3 User3
Laser 3 User4
Laser 3 User5
Laser 3 User6
Laser 3 User7
Laser 3 User8
Laser 3 User9
Laser 3 User10

Laser 4 User1
Laser 4 User2
Laser 4 User3
Laser 4 User4
Laser 4 User5
Laser 4 User6
Laser 4 User7
Laser 4 User8
Laser 4 User9
Laser 4 User10

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Post by 3dot... » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:08 pm

this looks awesome...

not to be to0 pushy but...

...When???!!!

...near future is long gone...
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Post by ava » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:05 pm

3dot... wrote:this looks awesome...

not to be to0 pushy but...

...When???!!!

...near future is long gone...
Yea, I have to agree, long gone, it's just keeps on growing :lol:

Should be ready in a few months, fingers cross.

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Post by Moody » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:34 pm

What kind of controll will this give you over lasers?
Ableton’s engineers are hard
at work developing code that will allow our software to predict the future, but we don’t
anticipate having this available until at least the next major release.

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Post by ava » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:39 pm

Moody wrote:What kind of controll will this give you over lasers?
Depense, what laser you are using, do a youtube search for dmx lasers, our solution syncs the laser to the beat, sound to light etc. Pan, tilt, color selection and preprogrammed patterns etc. All automated using abletons envelopes, Really cool.

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Post by Moody » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:49 pm

ava wrote:
Moody wrote:What kind of controll will this give you over lasers?
Depense, what laser you are using, do a youtube search for dmx lasers, our solution syncs the laser to the beat, sound to light etc. Pan, tilt, color selection and preprogrammed patterns etc. All automated using abletons envelopes, Really cool.
Not using anything at the moment. I am waiting for your plugin and possibly some suggested components. What about custom patterns?
Ableton’s engineers are hard
at work developing code that will allow our software to predict the future, but we don’t
anticipate having this available until at least the next major release.

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Post by 3dot... » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:37 pm

...[fingers crossed]

good luck!
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Post by ava » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:34 am

Moody wrote:
ava wrote:
Moody wrote:What kind of controll will this give you over lasers?
Depense, what laser you are using, do a youtube search for dmx lasers, our solution syncs the laser to the beat, sound to light etc. Pan, tilt, color selection and preprogrammed patterns etc. All automated using abletons envelopes, Really cool.
Not using anything at the moment. I am waiting for your plugin and possibly some suggested components. What about custom patterns?
Different lasers come with different predefined patterns, some laser will allow us to create custom paterns using abletons envelopes and our sound to light features.

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Post by hambone1 » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:41 am

Laser patterns and parameters (and all DMX fixture parameters) can easily be controlled with Live CC clips through a hardware MIDI>DMX converter with no additional software/plug-ins, too.

Using virtual MIDI buses, dummy clips, follow actions, and MIDI effects makes for an incredibly powerful system. Dragging & dropping Live lighting clips from Live's browser makes it easy to quickly create custom lighting sequences.

And if you're doing video, use the same CC clips to control video parameters to easily sync lighting to video.

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Post by ava » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:59 am

hambone1 wrote:Laser patterns and parameters (and all DMX fixture parameters) can easily be controlled with Live CC clips through a hardware MIDI>DMX converter with no additional software/plug-ins, too.

Using virtual MIDI buses, dummy clips, follow actions, and MIDI effects makes for an incredibly powerful system. Dragging & dropping Live lighting clips from Live's browser makes it easy to quickly create custom lighting sequences.

And if you're doing video, use the same CC clips to control video parameters to easily sync lighting to video.
Do you work on commision for MIDI>DMX.com? :lol:

Hambone1, theres a lot more to lighting than manually setting your lighting sequences, ill show a video in a few days of our output plugin using just sound-to-light. Makes the show a lot more interesting and not look like an arcade machine.

Can't do crossfading with midi, cant change your lamp levels using a knob just with midi(what do you do if your set you have created is too bright for your venue?), cant change lamp release times using just a knob with midi, and a lot more you can't do too. No sound to light for your lasers!!

Can't save your work either, can't sell/share your show.

Our output plugin can save you £££ in a single week!. Think about this, you own a top nightclub with huge light bulbs costing more than £10 each and they only lasts 50 hours a time. so thats £0.20 an hour cost per bulb times that by 40 bulbs is £8.00 an hour running cost. If your spending a week preparing a show your spend about 20 - 40 hours so that's £8.00 * 40 hours = £320 saving because you never had to switch your lighting on while creating you show.

Don't worry, most bulbs don't cost £10 each and last only 50 hours, mine cost £6.00 each and last 500 hours! And the new LED type lamps are cheap as chips and last 100,000 hours!! :D

Anyway hambone1 how much does a midi>dmx converter cost? We havent even said how much we will be charging...

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