6-pin Firewire laptops advice needed

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Post by 4.33 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:04 am

hmmm....
mbp gets all the good hype i see...
hmmmm...
you got me countin muney..
hmmmmmmm.....

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Post by rikhyray » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:56 am

Mac being more expensive then pc is history, MBP is the best value for money and no headache. Any pc notbook that is so well build -some Sony, Allienware or Asus cost more then MBP.
Samsung has models with 6 pin Firewire but since they dont use TI chips, you will have another problem.
And you get free idiots bonus- you will be seen as a real pro _ "he has a Mac".

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Post by noou » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:50 pm

fuzzyhead wrote:hi,
you may check this one :
http://www.shop-sonica.com/pd_livetracker_mkii.cfm
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Post by 4.33 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:13 pm

rikhyray wrote:Mac being more expensive then pc is history, MBP is the best value for money and no headache. Any pc notbook that is so well build -some Sony, Allienware or Asus cost more then MBP.
Samsung has models with 6 pin Firewire but since they dont use TI chips, you will have another problem.
And you get free idiots bonus- you will be seen as a real pro _ "he has a Mac".
well, it's not quite history in where i live :( for some reason here in russia a 15" mbp C2D 2G starts from $2,500, which is just bonkers...

and you can get a sony vaio with similar spex a $1K less...

but i wouldn't be perceived as a pro then :lol: oh well...

still, chaps what is bootcamping exactly?
is it some utility at startup which lets me choose win/osx to load?
and if i'm in the windows state, i can run all my pc software, right?

thanks for helping me out, wholeheartedly appreciated))

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Post by robbmasters » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:07 pm

4.33 wrote:is it some utility at startup which lets me choose win/osx to load?
and if i'm in the windows state, i can run all my pc software, right?
Yes and yes.

Most importantly, it's not some kind of emulator. It runs PC applications at a comparable speed to a similarly specified PC. There are some reports that Live runs faster under Boot Camp than natively under OS X.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
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Post by 4.33 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:59 pm

hmm...

what would you guys say about 13" macbook (not pro) C2D 2.16 and if i beef the RAM to 2G?

why is it so much cheaper, do you know?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/W ... ly/macbook

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Post by robbmasters » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:04 pm

It has integrated graphics. That always used to be a no-no for audio (under Windows, at least). But things may have changed.
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Post by 4.33 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:13 pm

just read up that the graphics on this macbook take only up to 80Mb Ram..
what do you think? in this case it won't be really significant, will it?

hm..... i believe i gotta give this baby a spin....

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Post by 4.33 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm

well
how do you do a rght-click on a mac?
pressing opt simultaneously?

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Post by LJN » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:33 pm

To the mac users - can you run XP under boot camp without having the OSX installed? How many partitions can XP address while booted under boot camp? Cheers

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Post by robbmasters » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:39 pm

4.33 wrote:well
how do you do a rght-click on a mac?
pressing opt simultaneously?
On a MacBook you keep two fingers on the touchpad while you click.

Or you get a two button mouse...
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Post by rikhyray » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:42 pm

That Sonic whatever name look really dangerous, if it is as good as it says...but how could you get it in Moskva ?
The problem with Sony is the cheap ones are... cheap, like Macbooks, meant for general use. but not audio or video. If you decide for aSony let me know the model, I am familiar with Vaio (I use either Mac or Vaio only) The good ones mostly cost same as MBP or more. But if that powered FW is so important I would get MBP.

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Post by fuzzyhead » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:02 pm

He mays get it in Moskva the same way I got mine in France,with USPS...
This model has FW 800 TI chipset
I get a previous version that never crashed and eats plugins for breakfast :wink:
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Post by inmazevo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:41 pm

LJN wrote:To the mac users - can you run XP under boot camp without having the OSX installed?
Not with bootcamp. There are other alternatives for doing this, a sourceforge open-source thing (can't remember the name). It's A LOT more work, while bootcamp is pretty much seamless.

It's not a big deal, however, as you can make the OS X partition quite small, and set the default boot to Windows.
How many partitions can XP address while booted under boot camp? Cheers
With bootcamp, the system disk itself will end up being ONLY Windows and OS X (and a couple of "hidden" partitions). You cannot alter this arrangement.

After that, you can "address" as many partitions (on separate drives) as "normal" XP.

There's nothing special about bootcamped XP; it's 100% XP, in every way.

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Post by rikhyray » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:43 pm

fuzzyhead wrote:He mays get it in Moskva the same way I got mine in France,with USPS...
This model has FW 800 TI chipset
I get a previous version that never crashed and eats plugins for breakfast :wink:
How is it build, material- gets hot, noisy ? feels solid ? Do they let you specify some details, configuration ?How much total you paid(in Euros).
Frankly, I haven't seen better notebook for music and video, ever - at least to my prefs.. 3 FW, PCMCIA,RAM, HD... looks like they got everything right.

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