short question regarding 'beat jump' and 'loop set'

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mr.ergonomics
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short question regarding 'beat jump' and 'loop set'

Post by mr.ergonomics » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:36 am

hi,
since producing and live performance isn't enough for me 8) I want to dj with live in the near feature. I have to say that my first attempts looks promising, but for me there are some surprising drawbacks in live. I can't find something like 'beat jumping' and 'loop set' in live (I guess not few of you know traktor).

I know you can use 'loop position set' and 'length set' to set up a loop with the global quantisation setting, but that's very limiting. I want to to loop 2/4/8/16 bars with a single key hit (...like in traktor).

beat jumping has the same problem, you can only jump the value of the global quantisation.

this must be a known problem, since there are some ableton djs out there. or do I only overlooked something?

thx

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Post by pepezabala » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:15 am

checkout tarekith's dj-racks in the tipps and tricks section. He built a loop-rack that can be used like that.

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Post by mr.ergonomics » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:33 pm

I've done a workaround similar to the racks, but the problem is that your audio track still plays forward. So if you loop 1 bar and play it over a period of time your track maybe finished or at a thematically unfitting position.

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Re: short question regarding 'beat jump' and 'loop set'

Post by andrewbrewer » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:43 pm

mr.ergonomics wrote:hi,
since producing and live performance isn't enough for me 8) I want to dj with live in the near feature. I have to say that my first attempts looks promising, but for me there are some surprising drawbacks in live. I can't find something like 'beat jumping' and 'loop set' in live (I guess not few of you know traktor).

I know you can use 'loop position set' and 'length set' to set up a loop with the global quantisation setting, but that's very limiting. I want to to loop 2/4/8/16 bars with a single key hit (...like in traktor).

beat jumping has the same problem, you can only jump the value of the global quantisation.

this must be a known problem, since there are some ableton djs out there. or do I only overlooked something?

thx
i have never actually gone to this length, but you can midi-map the global quantization. i guess this would mean one more step than you are used to in traktor.

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