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ze2be
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reverse ecco?

Post by ze2be » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:11 am

Does it exist a deley or other type plugin that can make reversed eccos?

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Post by beats me » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:22 am

Don't know about plugins but here's the universal work around for reverse delay/reverb.

1. Select the audio track you want the effect on and reverse it dry.

2. Apply the effect you want to the reversed (backwards) track.

3. Freeze and flatten that track so the effect becomes part of the audio.

4. Reverse the track a second time for it to play forward.

Done.

You may have to play around with the reverbs/delays and their tails a bit to get exactly what you want but that will do the trick. For this reason is it always good to make duplicate tracks of the original so you can go back to make the changes a couple times if need be.

You may already know all this but sharing it anyway.

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Post by ze2be » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:47 am

beats me wrote:Don't know about plugins but here's the universal work around for reverse delay/reverb.

1. Select the audio track you want the effect on and reverse it dry.

2. Apply the effect you want to the reversed (backwards) track.

3. Freeze and flatten that track so the effect becomes part of the audio.

4. Reverse the track a second time for it to play forward.

Done.

You may have to play around with the reverbs/delays and their tails a bit to get exactly what you want but that will do the trick. For this reason is it always good to make duplicate tracks of the original so you can go back to make the changes a couple times if need be.

You may already know all this but sharing it anyway.
OK nice, but I want to do it live on any channel instantly!
I know how to reverse an audio clip ;-)


So im just looking for a plug, or a series of plugs that can do this instantly.

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Post by leedsquietman » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:02 am

www.google.com

using this search engine I found various links, including this

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/5495.html

New V3 Effects:

* Stereo Bit Quantizer (Distortion).
* Stereo Double Distortion (64 bits 2x oversampled).
* 3 Tap Mono to Stereo Delay/Echo.
* 3 Tap Stereo Parallel Delay/Echo.
* Reverse Echo.
* Ring Modulator.
* Stereo Phaser.
* Stereo Flanger.
* 32 Band Analog Vocoder

I don't know how effective it would be but there is a demo.
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Post by beats me » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:22 am

Now that I think about it maybe dubstation does what you are looking for.

http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod ... ?pid=AD006

Check out the demo songs on the page.


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Post by ze2be » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:55 am

leedsquietman wrote:www.google.com

using this search engine I found various links, including this

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/5495.html
I don't know how effective it would be but there is a demo.
www.ableton.com

using this music editing forum I always get nice tips, and good discusions!


Thank you for googling for me, ill check it out if it can do what I want! :)

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Post by ze2be » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:57 am

beats me wrote:Now that I think about it maybe dubstation does what you are looking for.

http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod ... ?pid=AD006

Check out the demo songs on the page.
It cant, I tried it. Very nice n simple though! I recomend it for dub delay.

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Post by ze2be » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:00 am


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Post by Mesmer » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:57 am

zebe,
don't wanna be the pessimistic type but...
aren't you asking for the impossible:

I mean:
The fact that you start hearing reversed echo tails before the sound that generates it is produced, seems to imply sincere honest true real-time impossible.

aren't echo tails causal?

If i had to implement this, what I would do is introduce a delay in the forward signal path, so that I could buy the time to calculate the reverb/taps and invert it before onset. But that seems befuddled because of it's limited fake "real-time" window, and worse, the shortness of the achievable reverb length.
I wonder how the guys in the first link do it, i'll have to read more.

VST still is king of free huh?!
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Post by ze2be » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:22 pm

Mesmer wrote:zebe,
don't wanna be the pessimistic type but...
aren't you asking for the impossible:

I mean:
The fact that you start hearing reversed echo tails before the sound that generates it is produced, seems to imply sincere honest true real-time impossible.

aren't echo tails causal?

If i had to implement this, what I would do is introduce a delay in the forward signal path, so that I could buy the time to calculate the reverb/taps and invert it before onset. But that seems befuddled because of it's limited fake "real-time" window, and worse, the shortness of the achievable reverb length.
I wonder how the guys in the first link do it, i'll have to read more.

VST still is king of free huh?!
Who said I wanted that?
I was asking for a spesific type ecco, ecco ALWAYS comes after the original signal, hence the name!!

wierdo.. :?

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Post by corygilbert » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:44 am

double post :oops:

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Post by karmaofdove » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:39 pm

Great info on this page. Thanks!

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