Best reverbs ?

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Timur
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Post by Timur » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:32 am

Arts Acoustic Reverb is 25% for a christmas special.

What about Live's own reverb, how does it compare to good third-party ones?

I'm a bit suspicious about Convulsion Reverbs. They can sound good but they can also lack modulation and thus liveliness. With every hit the same impulse is used, it does not vary. A real room and good algorithm reverbs does not necessarily sound the same on every impulse.

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Post by Timur » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:43 am

I reading through some sites about comparisons of ArtsAcoustic and IK Multimedia CSR, both seem to be appealing (with ArtAcoustic being alot cheaper to buy).

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Post by Timur » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:15 am

Similar to the chaotic response of a natural room, the VSS3 reacts differently to identical signals.
That's what I meant in the above post.

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Post by leedsquietman » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:43 am

Live's reverb is quite poor unfortunately for many things IMHO - very artificial and lifeless. This is quite common for reverbs bundled with DAWS although Logic, Sonar and Samplitude all have nice convolution reverbs they licensed from other vendors which sound better.

There are ways of making it sound a little better using Racks as Robert Henke described previously on this board. Having said this, I do sometimes use it just because it is integrated and on low mode is CPU friendly (turn it up to high quality mode just before rendering).

Another decent free reverb is Dasample's Glaceverb.

The 'convolution is done to death' wasn't my quote, 2 or 3 people in magazines have said that recently, it was mentioned in Sound On Sound and Computer Music (the latter not a publication I particularly respect but I bought it for 2 specific reviews and for the Zebra CM free synth). This is one reason that IK CSR (Classik Reverb) is selling so well. I'm not denying that Altiverb is the best reverb, I believe that to be true. I am one of the converted.

All I'm saying is that like a guitar, if you use a Fender Strat as your main guitar, sometimes it's nice to use a Les Paul or 335 or a PRS for a different NICE sound.
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Post by Jupiter » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:47 am

TC VSS3 is the only one!

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Post by ChiDJ » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:26 pm

Altiverb

UAD plate

nuff said.
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BReverb

Post by FlightPlan » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:55 pm

Saw a cool demo of BReverb at the AES show at the Javits center NYC - sounded pretty amazing and is highly tweakable.

It's a little more than I can afford at the moment EUR 299 and also requires an iLok dongle, but I think worth looking at if you're considering going for the Altiverb.

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Post by R.J.Dubya » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:10 am

Oh ya, and Reverb is Reaktor's best kept secret. :wink:

And a bonus that you wouldn't expect from Reaktor - the reverb's tend to be more cpu friendly than most of today's other offerings.

Space Master, Space Master 2 - usually about 5% on my MBP 2.16
6-REV: about 4%

Excellent Reverbs.
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Post by Timur » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:13 am

Breverb seems to emulate the same unit that CSR aims for (I read the company consists partly of former IK Multimedia employees). Does anyone have more info about Breverb?

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Post by nebulae » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:40 am

a STRONG VOTE for ArtsAcoustic Reverb. It's my main reverb and used on every song at least once. Lush all the way through a long decay tail, and lotsa parameters, while not harsh on CPU.

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Post by the girl next door » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:34 am

Silverspike R2 is very good..You can really mould the reverb into your Mix by tweaking the Sliders and the Graphic Damping tables
LINK-> http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:R2
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Post by TequilaKez » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:07 am

If you can't fork out for hardware...


http://www.knufinke.de/sir/sir1.html

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http://www.memi.de/echochamber/responses/index.html

= Lot's of presets from various lexicon and TC units.. all for free.


Some of these are really great in the mix and they are kind to transients in the high frequency range without sounding muffled... hard to find in soft verbs..especially for free.
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Post by 90's child » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:26 am

the girl next door wrote:Silverspike R2 is very good..You can really mould the reverb into your Mix by tweaking the Sliders and the Graphic Damping tables
LINK-> http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:R2
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Silver Spike make fantastic reverbs at a fantastic price.

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Post by Landser » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:52 am

My favourite is the ArtsAcoustic reverb. It's incredible musical for a native reverb.

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