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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:24 am
by djadonis206
Nogi wrote:Tone Deft wrote:Nogi wrote:What is the rap Nirvana going to be? Getcher popcorn ready.
uh, that was like 20+ years ago. I'd say NWA's Straight Outta Compton.
I don't think you got my meaning. For the record, I already own all the same seminal rap records that everyone else does so no real insight there. It's just my intuition that the gangsta hype-culture thing is played out. It seems like we as a collective are overdue to get real again. I realize there are plenty of underground artists working overtime but who will carry it to the world at large.
My analogy was more like:
Nirvana made all those hair band party-hardy/money-grubbing/tit-grabbers look pretty chump and stopped them dead in their tracks. Who will step up in the rap world and turn all the platinum to so much spandex?
Common - probably the best lyricist out who doesn't rap about guns, drugs and the such
he's really good
rap is so huge right now - much bigger than rock or dance - so many genres and so many different ways to go with it
you can do rap / rock rap / dance gangster / rap - soul rnb whatever
but right now on the radios Common is the best mc out right now
e-40 is easily one of the best gangster rappers lyrically and he's been around longer than most and will be around longer than the rest holding his ground
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:25 am
by dcease
you dig mac dre?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:25 am
by Tone Deft
Nogi wrote:Tone Deft wrote:Nogi wrote:What is the rap Nirvana going to be? Getcher popcorn ready.
uh, that was like 20+ years ago. I'd say NWA's Straight Outta Compton.
I don't think you got my meaning. For the record, I already own all the same seminal rap records that everyone else does so no real insight there. It's just my intuition that the gangsta hype-culture thing is played out. It seems like we as a collective are overdue to get real again. I realize there are plenty of underground artists working overtime but who will carry it to the world at large.
My analogy was more like:
Nirvana made all those hair band party-hardy/money-grubbing/tit-grabbers look pretty chump and stopped them dead in their tracks. Who will step up in the rap world and turn all the platinum to so much spandex?
I'd still say ...Compton was one of those albums and a lot of the gangsta rappers of today are the leftovers. like the punk movement shook things up with a very REAL attitude, now bands like Green Day are called 'punk' or at least when they first came out. I agree it's played out, maybe I gave up on a rebirth.
OK, so is this song gangsta rap or what genre? if it is then is gangta rap solely a matter of lyrics?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlPVpXtkJY
/it's hard to focus on writing while listening to these tunes.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:30 am
by dcease
td,
i heard that song years ago, once. didn't catch the name of the group or song, and have thought about it a few times, not knowing where to look.
THANKS!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:31 am
by djadonis206
dcease wrote:you dig mac dre?
Mac Dre was cool
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:32 am
by djadonis206
Tone Deft wrote:Nogi wrote:Tone Deft wrote:
uh, that was like 20+ years ago. I'd say NWA's Straight Outta Compton.
I don't think you got my meaning. For the record, I already own all the same seminal rap records that everyone else does so no real insight there. It's just my intuition that the gangsta hype-culture thing is played out. It seems like we as a collective are overdue to get real again. I realize there are plenty of underground artists working overtime but who will carry it to the world at large.
My analogy was more like:
Nirvana made all those hair band party-hardy/money-grubbing/tit-grabbers look pretty chump and stopped them dead in their tracks. Who will step up in the rap world and turn all the platinum to so much spandex?
I'd still say ...Compton was one of those albums and a lot of the gangsta rappers of today are the leftovers. like the punk movement shook things up with a very REAL attitude, now bands like Green Day are called 'punk' or at least when they first came out. I agree it's played out, maybe I gave up on a rebirth.
OK, so is this song gangsta rap or what genre? if it is then is gangta rap solely a matter of lyrics?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlPVpXtkJY
/it's hard to focus on writing while listening to these tunes.
I'm gonna check that out but what's funny is I'm listening to dance music right now - peace division of all acts
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:34 am
by Tone Deft
dcease wrote:td,
i heard that song years ago, once. didn't catch the name of the group or song, and have thought about it a few times, not knowing where to look.
THANKS!!!
cool, I just searched on youtube and got lucky! I think it was a real quick summer single.
the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn4yZsDvRTk&NR=1
which is more gangster?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:45 am
by 4ace
I've got nothing to contribute to the thread other than i knew who started this thread before i looked.......
Yeah.....i'm on this beyotch a little too much.
dja206 is the resident rap aficionado.
Cheers
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:46 am
by ThrowAway
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:47 am
by dcease
yeah, i burned a double cd with eazy does it and 5150 into itunes from a friend after i heard the cover version, at least
, so i didn't even draw the line till just then! it was my first eazy solo cd... i told you... i can be a little behind
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:54 am
by djadonis206
4ace wrote:I've got nothing to contribute to the thread other than i knew who started this thread before i looked.......
Yeah.....i'm on this beyotch a little too much.
dja206 is the resident rap aficionado.
Cheers
I wish we all could kick it some how sometime - just to actually kick it with some of you fools
it'd be fun
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:17 am
by lola
Small gangster favs
Slick rick
Ice cube
Schoolly D
Reall gangster favs
Eazy e
MC Ren
The doc
Not really gangster but my favs are
Qtip
Rakim
And my alltime fav J dilla
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:25 am
by smutek
Some I like, The Fix, by Scarface. Street Champ by Big Shug. Livin Proof and A Tear For The Ghetto by Group Home. Anything by Gang Starr.
I don't know if I'd call 'em "gangster" per se, just real.
I never could get into Wayne, I just don't get the appeal. He's got the weakest delivery I've ever heard.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:28 am
by Rogue Scrunt
scarface - mr scarface is back
CPO - to hell and black w/ MC REN
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:30 am
by dcease
ehhh... i'm just typical tattoed white trash. we loves us some rap, what ever we can do to be black
so my a.d.d. prohibits me from having a favorite. wait... mom says i gotta take out the garbage. then i'll come back and tell y'all whose REALLY gangsta. besides... it's just background noise during a full-throttle fueled halo marathon anyway