icedsushi wrote: smutek wrote:
Obama took Maine. Usually a good sign. Sometimes.
Or is that in the actual presidential elections?
I think if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination I will cry.
How could they possibly be "neck in neck"?
Because of people (like you
?) who like Obama better than Hilary, but don't vote out of principal?
Unfortunately and ironically, I think the non-voters (who don't vote because they think any of the candidates meet their highest standards), can end up swaying the election away from who they thought would have been the most favorable (or least unfavorable) candidate. And then they end up being surprised (and disappointed) when the candidate they found as being the least favorable ends up winning!
So why cry or be surprised if Hilary wins? If thousands of think the way you do and don't vote, it should be no surprise.
So I'm basically saying the same thing as forge...
Never said I don't vote. Said I was considering not voting.
What I did say for certain was that I will not vote in the primary. Considered voting in the primary for a minute then checked some facts on some issues that I hold close and decided I couldn't cross the line I had drawn for myself.
I don't think I am setting the "highest standards" either. All I ask is:
1.) Don't have AIPAC shoved so deeply up your ass that you need to call Ehud Olmert before you take a shit.
2.) When Israel decides to rain fancy American made clusters of bomblets onto densely populated areas for 33 days don't stand up in congress and hu-rah your support.
3.) When hu-rahing your support don't add insult to injury by praising Israel's "long standing commitment to minimizing civilian casualties" (read Israel's commitment to murdering less innocent people while committing war crimes) when the exact opposite is currently and has always been true.
4.) Don't be a warmonger and don't say the typical things warmongers are fond of saying like, "no option off the table with regards to Iran".
5.) Leave Iran the hell alone for gods sake. Open a dialogue.
So there are 5 things that are really important to me. Crazy I know, it's a big country here in a bigger world, and with all of the issues to choose from I chose those 5.
Those 5 are really
important ones to me. 1 is the most important for me because without #1 #'s 2-5 would probably be a non-issue. I'm willing to compromise and be open minded on a lot of things, except those.
And only to an extent. I'd be understanding of a bit of AIPAC pandering on Obama's part, because realistically what American can become president if AIPAC isn't behind them? But 2 and 3, a direct endorsement and show of support for murder and indignity visited upon an entire country.
Anyone who endorses such a thing will never have my vote. Obama took part in that vote and voted yea. Now that's just me. I made a commitment to myself in July of 2006 and I will not break it.
If those are insanely high standards than so be it. Also, should mention that 2 and 3 were the primary reason why................
I'm no longer a Democrat.
I am, but only because I have not had time to go down and change party affiliations, but yes I am abstaining from voting in the primaries based on my
principles and the fact that I no longer consider myself a Democrat.
You can bet your arse I will be voting in November though.