Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:10 pm
you won't regret it...Machinesworking wrote:Never saw the movie, but i might just for sadistic laughs......
you won't regret it...Machinesworking wrote:Never saw the movie, but i might just for sadistic laughs......
leisuremuffin wrote:i'm tired of defending one of the greatest electronic musicians of our time.
.lm. - I'd appreciate linkage to some GOOD Timbaland songs.Nod wrote:leisuremuffin wrote:i'm tired of defending one of the greatest electronic musicians of our time.
Serious question Muffin - do you know of any footage anywhere that demonstrates his musical chops? Sure any mug can drop a sample onto a timeline or sit in front of an SSL G that they can't turn on without hiring someone in - but actually footage of him 'playing' an instrument? Here's one - tho' I think I may have linked this before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ZhIgJbsuY
@Tone Deft - re: Battery: best version ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCE1NnvonF0
Nod wrote:leisuremuffin wrote:i'm tired of defending one of the greatest electronic musicians of our time.
Serious question Muffin - do you know of any footage anywhere that demonstrates his musical chops? Sure any mug can drop a sample onto a timeline or sit in front of an SSL G that they can't turn on without hiring someone in - but actually footage of him 'playing' an instrument? Here's one - tho' I think I may have linked this before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ZhIgJbsuY
@Tone Deft - re: Battery: best version ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCE1NnvonF0
most of you aint multi-millionaires, and most of you aint selling the shit you jacked by the truckload (at the time)leisuremuffin wrote:Most of us are involved in a style of music that routinely samples entire phrases of shit without paying. Some of us even like "mash ups" and other such horseshit. Some even think club DJ's are as worthy of praise for their talents as musicians! but timabland gets busted ripping a sample and it's the biggest fucking deal ever. That cat will get his money from timbo, if he hasn't already, i'd bet money on it. and now more people know who he is and how great his fucking 8 bit music is. boo hoooooo. i sure hope timbaland doesn't sample my shit.
it's the term musician. I get a chip on my shoulder after woodshedding on guitar for half my life and appreciating the danger of playing every singe freaking note by hand as opposed to programming or producing.leisuremuffin wrote:instrument "chops" are not relevant in all forms of electronic music, do you have any footage of autechre's musical chops? obviously not relevant to that kind of music. programming chops aren't as tangible as instrument chops and you don't have to be a virtuoso on any instrument to produce great electronic music.
good shit. got more? or even recommend a whole album of his shit that's worthwhile? no sarcasm, I know you follow this kind of hip hop more than I do (err all hip hop, respect where respect is due.)
leisuremuffin wrote:As I said I'm looking for clips of him actually playing something as in the above - that may not seem relevant to you - but it is to me. Doesn't matter what record or who's.clip isn't of a timbaland production.
That's true - however good chops on something certainly are an indication, but not the be all & end all, of talent and an understanding and dedication to music, built over a number of years.instrument "chops" are not relevant in all forms of electronic music,
Odd then that many of the pioneers, and well known artists, back in the day could actually play their (electronic) equipment in real time mostly to a virtuoso level...what would you say has been lost in the meantime?do you have any footage of autechre's musical chops? obviously not relevant to that kind of music. programming chops aren't as tangible as instrument chops and you don't have to be a virtuoso on any instrument to produce great electronic music.
fuck it, don't tell me, show me, where's your shit, or any of your friends shit that is that hot?
Nod wrote:leisuremuffin wrote:As I said I'm looking for clips of him actually playing something as in the above - that may not seem relevant to you - but it is to me. Doesn't matter what record or who's.clip isn't of a timbaland production.
That's true - however good chops on something certainly are an indication, but not the be all & end all, of talent and an understanding and dedication to music, built over a number of years.instrument "chops" are not relevant in all forms of electronic music,
Odd then that many of the pioneers, and well known artists, back in the day could actually play their (electronic) equipment in real time mostly to a virtuoso level...what would you say has been lost in the meantime?do you have any footage of autechre's musical chops? obviously not relevant to that kind of music. programming chops aren't as tangible as instrument chops and you don't have to be a virtuoso on any instrument to produce great electronic music.
fuck it, don't tell me, show me, where's your shit, or any of your friends shit that is that hot?
No one's claimed that I'm "one of the greatest electronic musicians of our time" hence there's no need - so chill out and find me a clip of the cat playing something hot, to make your point, and I'll not say another word about him.