MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

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ik80
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MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by ik80 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:05 pm

(i'm newbie in the audio DAW configuration world)

I have a Macbook Pro 2.2GHz and just created a Bootcamp XP partition to run only Live 7. My main questions are:

- Should i install Asio4all?

- In Live Preferences, what is the IO Buffer Latency & Driver Error Compensation?

I've also a M-Audio Fast Track USB for recording, should i use it normally as sound output? With(out) Asio4all?

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Post by Dr Dub » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:37 pm

You should prefer to use your fasttrack over the inbuilt sound and use his XP Drivers. If you want to use your inbuilt souncard, try asio4all for low latency.

Do the live lesson about setting your souncard.

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Re: MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by robbmasters » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:08 am

ik80 wrote:Should i install Asio4all?
If you get low enough latency without it, then there's no need. But I get lower latency with ASIO4ALL than I do with my native Echo drivers, so it might be worth a try if your latency's a bit higher than you'd like.
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Re: MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by tricil » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:01 am

ik80 wrote:(i'm newbie in the audio DAW configuration world)

I have a Macbook Pro 2.2GHz and just created a Bootcamp XP partition to run only Live 7. My main questions are:

- Should i install Asio4all?

- In Live Preferences, what is the IO Buffer Latency & Driver Error Compensation?

I've also a M-Audio Fast Track USB for recording, should i use it normally as sound output? With(out) Asio4all?
First of all, why you'd use Boot Camp for only Live when it runs just fine on Leopard is beyond me, but that's your decision =)

I got XP Home just so i could run Fruity Loops again and play with all my old tracks from the '90s, but that's besides the point

To answer your questions:

1. Yes

2. Read the Lesson on Audio I/O in Live's Lessons menu. Take notes.

3. Try both ways. Personally, my Firebox has ASIO drivers, and I believe it would be a bit redundant to wrap its WDM into ASIO, but to each their own

Finally, go to www.musicxp.net and do everything they say there.
MacBook Pro T7600 / OS X 10.5.7 / Ableton Suite 8.0.2 / Peak Pro XT 6.1.1 / ReMOTE 37SL

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Re: MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by tricil » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:01 am

damn double post...

you will nowadays have to create a login for music xp (why, i don't know)

just do it, and click on tuning tips and follow.
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Re: MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by ik80 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:12 am

Thanks for the replies people!

This is what i've done:

1. Config my: ONBOARD SOUNDCARD
(since i will mess around sometimes without my external hardware).

So i did the following:
- Installed asio4all.com
- Adjusted my XP Bootcamp to the Tuning Tips of musicxp.com
- Did the I/O Lesson on Live 7.

The bad thing is that even with the maximum buffer at 2048 from asio4all i still listen to cracks in the Test Tone at 80% CPU Usage.
Do you people with MBP & Bootcamp have this latency?
What is the preferred Asio4All & Live Audio Settings?

My Live Audio Preferences:
- Audio Device: ASIO4ALL v2
- Channel Config: Input (1/2) - Output (1/2) [no recording needs yet]
- Sample Rate: 48000
- Buffer: 2048 (from Asio)
- Driver Error: 0 ms

My Asio4All Settings
- Buffer: 2048
- Checked: Always Resample 44.1 <-> 48kHz
- Checked: Force WDM Driver to 16 Bit
- rest is Default (32 samples i/o latency & 2 kernel buffers uncheked)


2. Then i installed the latest mAUDIO FAST TRACK USB Driver
and plugged my FastTrack in...

My Live Settings:
- same as above expect:
- Buffer Size: 256 (from Fast Track)

Test tone at 80% CPU is clean & continuous!!!

i'll definitely use my FastTrack all the time... although it would be nice to get a decent latency with Asio4All + Onboard MBP Realtek HD Audio.

ps: i read somewhere this can be because of the GS Wavetable MIDI in the XP SP2 Audio Settings... anyone know about this???
Macbook Pro 2.2GHz 15'' 2GB RAM / OSX 10.5.1 / Bootcamp XP SP2 //// M-audio Fast Track USB / Novation Remote 25SL

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Re: MBP Bootcamp XP Config (asio4all, latency config...)?

Post by tricil » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:33 am

ik80 wrote:Thanks for the replies people!

This is what i've done:

1. Config my: ONBOARD SOUNDCARD
(since i will mess around sometimes without my external hardware).

So i did the following:
- Installed asio4all.com
- Adjusted my XP Bootcamp to the Tuning Tips of musicxp.com
- Did the I/O Lesson on Live 7.

The bad thing is that even with the maximum buffer at 2048 from asio4all i still listen to cracks in the Test Tone at 80% CPU Usage.
Do you people with MBP & Bootcamp have this latency?
What is the preferred Asio4All & Live Audio Settings?

My Live Audio Preferences:
- Audio Device: ASIO4ALL v2
- Channel Config: Input (1/2) - Output (1/2) [no recording needs yet]
- Sample Rate: 48000
- Buffer: 2048 (from Asio)
- Driver Error: 0 ms

My Asio4All Settings
- Buffer: 2048
- Checked: Always Resample 44.1 <-> 48kHz
- Checked: Force WDM Driver to 16 Bit
- rest is Default (32 samples i/o latency & 2 kernel buffers uncheked)


2. Then i installed the latest mAUDIO FAST TRACK USB Driver
and plugged my FastTrack in...

My Live Settings:
- same as above expect:
- Buffer Size: 256 (from Fast Track)

Test tone at 80% CPU is clean & continuous!!!

i'll definitely use my FastTrack all the time... although it would be nice to get a decent latency with Asio4All + Onboard MBP Realtek HD Audio.

ps: i read somewhere this can be because of the GS Wavetable MIDI in the XP SP2 Audio Settings... anyone know about this???
uncheck resample and force 16 bit and see if that helps
MacBook Pro T7600 / OS X 10.5.7 / Ableton Suite 8.0.2 / Peak Pro XT 6.1.1 / ReMOTE 37SL

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Post by Gnosis » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:42 am

If you are using a Santa Rosa MBP then you will have problems with latency using the internal sound card (badly written realtek audio drivers as far as I know).

I cannot get better than about 1000 samples using asio4all in bootcamp on my 2.4ghz MBP.

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