What Is The Best Midi Controller with Motorized Faders?

o0o · Post by **o0o** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:44 pm

I like suggestions
what do you use
what do you think

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:50 pm

value for money - has to be bcf2000

o0o · Post by **o0o** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:04 pm

but that is only 8 faders right, is there anything good with more?

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:08 pm

there's 8 physical but you can bank & have loads more (32?)

husker · Post by **husker** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:18 pm

the BCF is not 'touch sensitive' so you cannot change fader levels if they are being automated (without a big fight with the fader motors)

a decent fader box like a Mackie is touch sensitive and will let you take over from the automation

they are very different (also in $ obviously)

o0o · Post by **o0o** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:49 pm

what mackie do you speak of and do you know of more or is there only mackie and bcf

nate_D · Post by **nate_D** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:52 pm

gotta say i love my tascam fw 1884 again. shit is the bomb. i'm able to leave all my audio/midi devices hooked up to it so all i gotta do is turn it on and press record. it was a little tricky to set up at first but its been the bomb ever since. i paid 850$ brand new off ebay (came from japan though... really sketched me out til i got it).

husker · Post by **husker** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:20 pm

o0o wrote:what mackie do you speak of and do you know of more or is there only mackie and bcf

the master of all fader boxes - http://www.mackie.com/products/mcupro/index.html

nonnus · Post by **nonnus** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:32 pm

or get the old, mackie control universal (not pro)

u can find them cheaper now
the only diference is u need to conect thru midi and have no usb option
ah, and it is dark instead of white

2bad · Post by **2bad** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:36 pm

Yamaha o1v96 is ace apart from it dont work with live

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:45 pm

2bad: why not? no support?

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:16 pm

Another vote for the Mackie Control Univseral. Just got one and it makes me want to throw the rest of my controllers out the window, but it is quite heavy and bulky. I wouldn't exactly want to take it to live shows.

nonnus · Post by **nonnus** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:35 pm

beats me:

what firmware do u run in your mcu ?

mine came with 2.1.0 but it was showing erratic behaviour
(faders moving when selecting plugins and such..)

i installed 2.1.2 (the lattest) and got that prob fixed
but then it was erraticaly showing audio signal (led and meters) on empty tracks

so i tried 2.1.1 and all seems ok,
except i swear sometimes i see some fader move a tiny bit when i touch some other control,
maybe im just getting crazy, but motor faders do have some personallity of their own

btw: at witch level do your mcu faders get at 0db in live ?
mine go almost to the 5 mark instead of the u
not that it is really important but mildly annoying

2bad · Post by **2bad** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:21 pm

stutter wrote:2bad: why not? no support?

It works as a bog standard midi controller but the communication (remote layer) is not 2 way hence the touch sensitive motorised faders don't work - this is because yamaha don't support the version mackie emulation live uses

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:42 pm

nonnus wrote:beats me:

btw: at witch level do your mcu faders get at 0db in live ?
mine go almost to the 5 mark instead of the u
not that it is really important but mildly annoying

You can adjust the level range for your MIDI controls in Ableton. So if you want unity on the controller to be 0 dB in the software, just set max as 0 dB in Ableton.