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Post by Machinate » Thu May 29, 2008 9:54 am

3dot... wrote:
swishniak wrote:i have to agree with parametex. there are much better ones out there.

i have found most of the audio damage stuff to be not as EXTREME or DAMAGING as is purports.

it sure is a purty gui though.
Ronin...
yes, what a beatiful product that was! Oh my god, the evilness that could spew from that thing. Shame it's been discontinued :-( They haven't made anything with as much gusto since, and I think I know why:

Dubstation, Vapor, Fluid, Liquid, Dr. Device, and others in their shop could all be somehow modelled with Ronin - now they must be grossing more by selling individual units...

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Post by 3dot... » Thu May 29, 2008 10:24 am

...hehe...
that's exactly what I thought when they stopped selling it...
...it is the best plug ever... such a wide range of usage....
also own discord2... which is very cool...
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Post by 3dot... » Thu May 29, 2008 10:25 am

as far as delays go...

meef recommended a good one... also..

analog style free ones...
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/731.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/958.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2461.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3097.html

another fine Bucket brigade emulation
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1008.html

also..the delay on pro53 is pretty amazing...
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Post by 3dot... » Thu May 29, 2008 10:29 am

Machinate wrote:
3dot... wrote:
swishniak wrote:i have to agree with parametex. there are much better ones out there.

i have found most of the audio damage stuff to be not as EXTREME or DAMAGING as is purports.

it sure is a purty gui though.
Ronin...
yes, what a beatiful product that was! Oh my god, the evilness that could spew from that thing. Shame it's been discontinued :-( They haven't made anything with as much gusto since, and I think I know why:

Dubstation, Vapor, Fluid, Liquid, Dr. Device, and others in their shop could all be somehow modelled with Ronin - now they must be grossing more by selling individual units...
one of the sweetest things about it is the ability to route the env follower...
more modulation is always a plus...

that's why we needs modulation devices in live...
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Post by Machinate » Thu May 29, 2008 10:47 am

yeah man.

Shit, now I have to build a model of Ronin in Max5 :twisted:

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Post by ashley_k » Thu May 29, 2008 3:15 pm

Another free Delay Plug-in for Mac and PC is Togu Audio Line - TAL-Dub

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2854.html

http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-Dub

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Post by 3dot... » Fri May 30, 2008 12:27 am

Machinate wrote:yeah man.

Shit, now I have to build a model of Ronin in Max5 :twisted:

cool man...
the way I see it...it's the routing matrix that makes all the difference with this plug...
one thing that bothered me is that you cannot control the volumes of each 'module'... (or the 'send' amount in the matrix...)
but that's maybe also a part of it's magic...not being able to control everything...
I'd like to see where you'd go with that...
if you happen to compile a vst...send it over...
(if it ain't too much of a hassle...)
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Post by Machinate » Fri May 30, 2008 12:34 am

3dot... wrote:if you happen to compile a vst...send it over...
(if it ain't too much of a hassle...)
Remind me again when the pluggo lib comes out for Max5.... it may be a while yet.
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Post by bensuthers » Fri May 30, 2008 12:50 am

dubstation is not the cleanest delay around - it reminds me of a classic roland SDE series delay.

classic sound.

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Post by john gordon » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:15 pm

bump

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Post by jgerry » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:01 am

Interesting thread. I hadn't heard of Audio Damage before. They offer some nice stuff, very reasonably priced.

I dropped $39 for Dubstation, but I gotta say, after comparing it for the last couple of hours side by side with the (free!) Tal-Dub, I prefer the sound of the Tal-Dub. It doesn't have a loop & reverse function like the Dubstation, but it has more ways to tweak the sound, and can do different delay lengths on the left & right channels. Cool stuff. I'm not likely to use the loop & reverse anyway.

Props to Audio Damage though for their very customer-friendly policies. They allow you to get a full refund up to 30 days out, no questions asked, or trade your license for a different product, up to 120 days out. They even let you transfer a license to someone else. That's almost unheard of.

I may dick around with Dubstation a bit more, but I think I'm going to return it. Maybe I'll pick up one of the other Audio Damage products instead. I almost feel bad returning the thing since I'm so impressed with their level of customer service. But money is money, and I don't need to be paying for stuff I won't use.

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Post by muthafunka » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:52 am

swishniak wrote:i have to agree with parametex. there are much better ones out there.

i have found most of the audio damage stuff to be not as EXTREME or DAMAGING as is purports.
It does have a nice 'vintage' sound, thought the TAL one sounded v. harsh and metallic v. quickly.
Ohmforce's Ohmboyz, Fabfilter's Timeless, 2 or 3 Reaktor ensembles and the UAD1 Roland 201 Space Echo pretty much give me the old-skool delay luv I need.

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Post by leedsquietman » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:14 am

It's really good value. I own it and use it.

It doesn't sound as authentic as the UAD-1 Roland RE201 Space Echo and doesn't have things like the 'worn tape' effect, but it is more than just a bucket brigade delay and has very useable presets and programmability.

I actually like Audio Damage's plugins a lot, and Fluid is the best darned chorus around, excepting Dimension D (once again UAD-1 plugin). I also think reverence is a great plate reverb sound, not quite up the the plate 140 in UAD-1 but great value at the price and more useable than many costlier alternatives, which seems par for the course.

Their plugins might not be the creme de la creme but all of them punch above their weight, IMHO and are useful, versatile and have a nice, simple GUI for easy programming.
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Post by elxicano » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:08 pm

Just wanted to throw in my 2cents as well... I'm a big fan of AudioDamage. I love Ricochet and I like Dubstation for what it offers. I still think the price was very reasonable and fair.

There are many other reverb plugins that offer more variety, but I consider this a specialty item that does what it is supposed to do. The sound is clean, the CPU usage is low and and I have not had a single problem using it in any way.

I realy love that these guys keep turning out products and at a cheap price. As someone mentioned before, their customer service is great. I also want to add that the other big plus behind using these guys instead of SOME freeware, is just that their products are very stable and Live friendly.

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Post by djshiva » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:46 am

<3 dubstation. use it constantly both in tunes and in live sets. had one problem with it automatically changing a setting and never figured that one out, but other than that i have had no issues.
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