which NI product should I upgrade - or maybe Metasynth?

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which NI product should I upgrade - or maybe Metasynth?

Post by forge » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:40 pm

I have $200 to spend - should I upgrade to Reaktor 5 + Absynth 4? or FM8 instead of Absynth?

which is best out of FM8 and Absynth 4?

or should I forget NI and update Metasynth

the downside of Metasynth OSX isn't my main OS so it might be a little inconvenient, but I have been wanting it for a while

what are your faves?

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Post by creature » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:41 pm

Im a big fan of FM8 myself. It's a really flexible synth.

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Post by drush » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:55 pm

Absynth!

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Re: which NI product should I upgrade - or maybe Metasynth?

Post by b0unce » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:05 pm

forge wrote: the downside of Metasynth OSX isn't my main OS so it might be a little inconvenient, but I have been wanting it for a while
take a risk on metasynth, if it's up your alley there is nothing else like it really...

also there's some interesting & dirt-cheap addons for making your metasynth usage a little easier. There's one called meta-cycle or something. It takes your REX files and imports them into metasynth, to have all kinds of madness imposed on the timbres & timing.

it's kind of annoying that it hasn't been optimized for intel-macs yet, it chews cpu headroom. As a result you preview less realtime voices before it crackles up. However, it's pretty quick & easy to render off whatever you're working on.


edit: wait, you said update metasynth....do you already have version 2 ?
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Re: which NI product should I upgrade - or maybe Metasynth?

Post by Poster » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:19 pm

I'd say go for Reaktor.. most to gain when updating just one plug..

I assume you still have R4 so you haven't touched the new stuff in the user library..
Sound quality wise there are loads of very good R5 instruments..

Meta synth; if you dig it.. very niche i.m.o.
FM8; great synth but Reaktor also offers very nice FM ensembles.. tho not 1:1 substitutes..
Absynth; one of a kind, cannot be compared..

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Post by forge » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:32 pm

cool - everyone has pretty much recommended every option! :lol:

@b0unce - yeah I have the old one but by weird disjointed series of events I got to use it about twice before I never again had access to OS9 so it's like a big frustration of a license that's never been used

@poster - yes I think Reaktor is the closest to certain but for an extra $20 over budget I could probably upgrade Absynth or Fm7 as well

I have the Komplete 2 bundle so yes I have R4 but I've barely used it - partly because I've just never put in the time to learn to use it properly, but also because R5 came out and I got left behind

everyone is always sharing R5 ensembles now! apparently it's way more stable though, people say, and I'd quite like to dig into it

if I get accepted on to my MMus I may buy the full Max/MSP/Jitter bundle for it though - at a whopping $699! - but that depends on a lot of things, so that might be next year - R5 may even be good practice in a way....

decisions.... nice to be able to even think about this after so long without buying new toys though (not counting Live of course)

I stuck an extra GB of ram in today and that was a new lease on life, so a new toy or two might be a nice extra!! ;-)

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Post by Precision » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:40 pm

I'm a bit late into the suggestions (as usual :oops: ), but FWIW Forge, I can really recommend updating from Reaktor 4. It's a big upgrade, particularly the core modules, which extend the whole thing dramatically. I don't whether others will agree, but I thought I noticed a significant difference in overall sound 'quality' from 4 -> 5 too.

FM 7 -> FM 8 was also a big leap, but maybe not so much if you've already got Operator.

I love Absynth, it's one of my all-time favourites, but it took a while to appreciate Absynth 4; I'm still not sure it was as good as I'd hoped. That Absynth sound is what I love about the instrument, and that's still there for sure - but the extras don't really seem to be much of an enhancement (I'm prepraring to be proved wrong by about a hundred replies to this :P ).

If it were me, I think I'd go Reaktor 5 + FM 8, but I suck at giving advice (as everyone's prolly gathered by now 8) ).

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Post by Liam » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:51 pm

Reaktor for sure. Spend a month just downloading the library stuff.

More bang for your buck.

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Post by Poster » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:52 pm

these 3 ensembles alone are worth the update i.m.o.
especially that first slicer is insane..


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Post by R.J.Dubya » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:25 pm

May I ask why not upgrade your komplete 2 to komplete 5?

I guess that may be a little more than 200 dollars, but only a bit more. That would be my ultimate advice. You'd get not only the absynth 4, fm8 and reaktor 5 upgrades, but also battery 3, kontakt 3 and a few other goodies.

If that's not an option though, Reaktor 5 is the most worthy update. The difference between 4 and 5 is quite something. The new ensembles are excellent (factory and user libraries), but also it is definitely more stable and much more responsive. It's just smoother, without the hiccups and sluggishness V4 used to have. Also lower cpu on the older ensembles.

As for absynth vs. fm8; check out the fm8 features and see if they tickle your fancy - new arpeggiator/step sequencer is very cool and lots of great effects. Those are the main additions (which stand out from absynth). Also better layout, the XY hybridizer thingy (like cameleon5000) and the kore browser, which is actually quite cool. Absynth got that too, along with new master envelopes, more freedom in module arrangment and more macro controls. It's kinda still the NI king synth IMO. In the end, that ones a personal preference between fm8 and absynth.

Hope that helps!
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Post by scientist » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:41 pm

@poster. what are the names of those ensembles? me want.

and i'll +3 on the reaktor upgrade. the user library is awesome, with the latest version you won't need to check compatibility.

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Post by Poster » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:05 pm

scientist wrote:@poster. what are the names of those ensembles? me want.
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aah.. that link didn't work.. my bad..

Cirklz v1.5
Flakes v1.7
Colorstrip v1.4

current top ensembles..

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Post by starving student » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:16 pm

what's the latest version of Reaktor and do those instruments work in Reaktor session?

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Post by Poster » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:21 pm

starving student wrote:what's the latest version of Reaktor and do those instruments work in Reaktor session?
download and try..?

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Post by R.J.Dubya » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:23 pm

starving student wrote:what's the latest version of Reaktor and do those instruments work in Reaktor session?
Reaktor 5. And No they don't. Session was discountinued at V4 and only works with V4 ensembles.
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