Operator users take a vote

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:20 am

I use ONLY operator.

you can do whatever you want to with it...
analog sounds, oscillator, FM, rythm, filtering, noise, pads, bass, leads, etc etc

Undercover Soul · Post by **Undercover Soul** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:53 pm

That seems pretty much a cert then. Maybe I need to put my VST's down for a bit and get back to Operator.

You have all been very kind with your responses I know things like this can get ignored too easily.

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:20 pm

I tested a lot of VSTi (native inst, and others) etc

the most stable stuff, powerful etc= OPERATOR
the reason is very simple: OPERATOR is included in the Ableton Live Framework... even if the "standard" VST create application connection, iti isn't the same thing !!!

misteron · Post by **misteron** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:03 pm

Operator is worth it

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:05 pm

hmm,
this poll is pretty evenly split eh

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:23 pm

there's just so many little things about it that make it great. Syncable looping envelopes? Genius. Quantizable velocity to pitch. The overall time and tone knobs.

it's just a really fun and really expansive synth.

.lm.

condra · Post by **condra** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:12 pm

Yep. Although it is great for "bread and butter" sounds, lets not forget, it is capable of some mind-blowing, room shaking, tweeter shattering shit too.

It is so good, it stops me from getting value out of Zebra and Massive.

Ableton haven't done much with Operator in the last couple of years. I really hope they put in a couple of minor improvements for version 8. A random button would be nice.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:16 pm

condra wrote:A random button would be nice.

idea: use automap, but I don't know of hardware that does random stuff.

click on any device, the blue hand appears, hit a button to send random values to all the parameters.

has anyone hacked automap with max or bidule or any software programs?

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:16 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
condra wrote:A random button would be nice.
idea: use automap, but I don't know of hardware that does random stuff.

click on any device, the blue hand appears, hit a button to send random values to all the parameters.

has anyone hacked automap with max or bidule or any software programs?

Great idea. I know the answer is yes, but I have not done this personally. Using midi yoke or iac, I am pretty sure that this can be accomplished by writing a simple patch in max. It would not be as elegant but I have a hard enough time dealing with automap, beyond hacking it.

Regarding Operator: It is more than enough to make some pounding, crisp and generally excellent music on its own.

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:19 pm

andrewbrewer wrote:I find that Operator is a pretty sweet synth for old-school "house" sounds. I love it, perfect balance of simplicity and capability.

I agree with this. I use it in almost everything I make.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:29 pm

i'm not crazy about soft synths but operator is good.

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:42 pm

Operator strikes a good balance between flexibility and ease of use.

It falls down in a big way mostly due to limitations in Live itself:

1. no midi controller support outside of live's automation system
2. ... so no recording automation in session view
3. no program changes

If it weren't for those I'd use it a lot more. Hopefully in Live 8 Ableton finally fix the midi mess they introduced in version 4.

dm_hawk · Post by **dm_hawk** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:51 am

i use it in almost everything, too.
the workflow is speedy.
i use it to make drums, pads, leads, and the even occasional acoustic instrument.

i wish there were a way to expand its view so that you could see the asdr of all 4 oscillators simultaneously - that would be the shit.

SMonk · Post by **SMonk** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:14 am

If it had sensible modulation options (mod wheel, aftertouch etc) it would be great. As it is, it's only OK.

m.Lo · Post by **m.Lo** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:37 pm

Undercover Soul wrote:I am thinking of upgrading to 7 and I am not sure how much use Operator is. Do people really get a lot of use out of it?

I use plenty of VSTs and Sampler but don't really touch Operator. I have learnt it through tutorials etc so have experimented a bit.

Is it worth it's money and do people get a great deal of use out of it?

You possibly know me as a Ableton critic, so this is for you:
I wouldn´t buy Ableton´s instruments anymore. I have Operator and Sampler and what about automation in session view? Don´t work! Controller assignments? No, only song-based, not with the instument-preset. Sad sad sad. So I use other Softsyths and it works. So much about integrity. Operator sounds good, but there are betters synths that I can use in Logic too.
Sampler doesn´t read Samples from NI Kontakt. Better buy Kontact, you are open to the world of modern Sampling that´s farout more than Sampler can do and you can use it standalone. Cheers

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