Why is it that every time you moderates hear a voice from the far left you become even more pedantic and authoritarian acting than towards right wing people? Just a little tip, stop with the personal attacks, it's not doing you any good, no person old enough to sign in to the forums wants paternalistic pandering from you. Even more fun, I don't give a fuck if you attack me at this point, I'm pretty immune to it, but deva hasn't said one nasty thing towards you knotkranky, yet this it #2 in personal attacks and avoiding talking to him about the issues he brings up.
Hmm, I don't see anything personal in my response to deva. I'm cool with deva and I hope he's cool with me. You too. But I would really like to hear the argument from non criticizing perspective. Communicate through your candidate at least. But nonetheless, It's awfully light weight pokes i'm taking at you and deva. Attacks? Nasty? Please dude, you could lighten up a little here yourself. There's too much time spent holding me to a standard higher than others you're not reprimanding. If deva is honestly verklempt i'll take it more easy on the guy cuz maybe you know something I don't. I really don't want to hurt anyone.
But, my quote you've posted still stands and I believe it's an observation that has merit yes?It goes for anyone crying "It's all shit" and nothing but. It just doesn't go anywhere after a round or two, but maybe that's the point, i dunno. I 'm certainly trying to steer the dialogue into a more constructive format.
Paternalistic pandering? Yeah ok, i can see how that would be construed. I am 47 ya know Just call me an old fuck and lets get on with it.
Yup, Democrats are serving a shit sandwhich but the Republicans have 3 shit patties and an unnecessary war on theirs so that's a little inaccurate. I simply cannot let McBush have anymore control. It would be really bad to let those fucks continue. Really really bad.The only hope I have for you and Tone as far as this need to belittle the opponent in a debate is that it's a defense against your own doubts about the democrats, and one day you'll wise up and realize that they're serving you the same shit sandwich the republicans are, just on rye bread.
Totally agree here. Too many would die for me to wish for it, but i agree nonetheless.We need near economic ruin, total financial chaos, and loss of standing world wide, none of this embarrassing neocon action, but total humiliation. Otherwise we're all too fucking happy being status quo, not rocking the boat too hard and voting again and again and again and again for the lessor of two evils.
No candidate can promise much. Being president is one thing, power and unforeseen events is another. There are plenty of entities that reach past the prez. If Paul or Nader were elected (and bless them btw) the current powers that be would render them impotent being that four years is too short and it would have to turn shit before it got better from the adjustments. A second term wouldn't be in the cards for those fine picks because of it. I really like your power idea btw.I'm pretty sure we could solve our energy problem in one fell swoop by installing 5-10% of the deserts in the states with solar panels. This would easily provide enough electricity for our cars as well. Then gas could be regulated to HUGE vehicles etc. But hey, there's a whole power structure in place that doesn't want that. As it stands we're chasing oil, and pissing a lot of people off because of that. Obama doesn't promise much in this regard, it's far too little IMO, and you of course are free to disagree,
Ok, who's schooled enough? Cuz i'm not! Its a music forum. I would like to make a formal request for a Chomsky category though. It's really ok to dismiss much of what I say. I won't get hurt. I do get jacked up and post sometimes and I do blow steam here.just don't tell me or others that we aren't schooled enough etc. just makes you sound like the assholes that make this world so difficult in the first place to enjoy.
Listen bro, i'm gonna have a little fun here and be a little provocative, steer the dialogue, even pull a few chains after a few drinks once in a while. But there's nothing i'm doing that requires any reprimand. I just want you and my other bros on this board to vote Obama