what do you *actually* expect in Live 8?

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Post by ollyb303 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:24 pm

Crash wrote:
ollyb303 wrote:stable midi clock.

that's the only thing that bothers me at the moment and it really needs fixing.
Yes, it does, but it wont happen, because your current perception of Live's Midi Clock is pure fiction! :wink:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98876
LOL! Are ableton denying that there's an issue with Live's midi clock then? Surely with so many people telling them that it's a problem, they can;t ignore this???

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Post by julienb » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:27 pm

what do you *actually* expect in Live 8?

- data flowing between live and max/msp through a max/msp object!
- useful song management for live performances (I twisted it by using only 6 scenes per song in only one set but...)


I won't write more open Live API cause Robert H. will destroy me with an ICBM ;-)
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Post by lola » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:39 pm

+ a nicer gui
+ groove quantise
+ better stretch algo's, + 1 implented in sampler.
+ detachable midi editor.

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Post by evon » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:23 pm

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Post by Tarekith » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:43 pm

My guesses for what we'll likely see:

- Vocoder
- Clip crossfades
- The new Complex mode
- A new instrument, my guess is Operator v2 (xtra cost)
- dual monitor support
- improved midi mapping options
- bezier curves
- yet another (much needed) redo of the library, with a lot of new presets.

OR, I think we might see the birth of a new product continuing from where Live is now. IE, Live 7 will now be called "Studio v1" or something. Still have the same session view/live features, but rebranded to address the DAW angle it's been headed the last few years.

Either way I think we'll first get the news at Winter NAMM.

Just a guess though.

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Post by Crash » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:09 pm

ollyb303 wrote:they can;t ignore this???
Ignorance seems to be a highly valued skill at some places. :arrow:

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Post by kuniklo » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:14 pm

Also stretch modes for simpler and sampler. It's crazy that with all that timestretching code under the hood the only *instrument* you can access it from is Impulse.

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Post by Poster » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:28 pm

what do you *actually* expect in Live 8?


more of everything,

less consolidation/expansion of unique strengths..
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Post by SubFunk » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:28 pm

- dual monitor support

and not bloating it up! stability, stability... and once again stability...

a browser which is not F**king windows style!!!

and not having anymore the function keys hardwired!!!!!!!!!! GRRR.
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Post by db2 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:04 pm

I like the idea of a drop down menu of scalable waveforms for clip envelopes.

I have no clue what I expect, but the wikipedia entry on Ableton says:

"In March 2007, Ableton announced it was beginning a collaboration with Cycling '74, producers of Max/MSP. This collaboration will not be directly based on Live or Max/MSP, rather will combine the two companies' strengths in a new product."

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Post by djgroovy » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:21 pm

Give me group tracks & the ability to choose the vst parameters & the inclusion of some suite instruments, stability, a better grid marking on the midi clip view, a better stretch algo, improve some (most?) of the effects, track colors, a mastering plugin, more rack macros with buttons as well, external midi plugins and a revamped browser. And i'm happy. :lol:
I don't ask for the lfo because it's already been hinted that is not coming.

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Post by STRATEGY_510 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:32 am

JJarvis wrote:I can't understand why anyone would want a step sequencer when you already have a piano roll that you can easily pencil in sequences.
I think a lot of people find programming drums in piano roll to be awkward, I know I do.

Something like Guru's step-sequencer would be nice I think, to use with drum racks, etc.


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Post by Homebelly » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:48 am

STRATEGY_510 wrote:
JJarvis wrote:I can't understand why anyone would want a step sequencer when you already have a piano roll that you can easily pencil in sequences.
I think a lot of people find programming drums in piano roll to be awkward, I know I do.

Something like Guru's step-sequencer would be nice I think, to use with drum racks, etc.


STRATEGY
For me it isn't even about drums...
A step sequencer can be used for all kinds of things.
If you haven't messed with a modular system, or even a modern synth
like the RADIUS for example that allows you to sequence notes and modulations, then you haven't fully experienced life...
A proper step sequencer is a step beyond an arpegiator.
Using them just to sequence drums using the X0X's as an example is only about 1/10 the story...
:wink:
Right now yu can get all of the affects from clip modulation, but it would be so much cooler to be able to do it in real time using latches and knobs...
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Post by forge » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:10 am

STRATEGY_510 wrote:
JJarvis wrote:I can't understand why anyone would want a step sequencer when you already have a piano roll that you can easily pencil in sequences.
I think a lot of people find programming drums in piano roll to be awkward, I know I do.

Something like Guru's step-sequencer would be nice I think, to use with drum racks, etc.


STRATEGY
yeah there is definitely something about the interface and functionality of a step sequencer that is way more immediate and conducive to jamming

even though it is functionally very similar to the MIDI editor, it still feels very different

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Post by JRoyer » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:37 am

I would like see more versatility in track selection. My first "teacher" in the world of DAW's was Pro Tools. I really enjoy Ableton Live, but I would like to access a particular portion of Ableton by simply typing or using a MIDI controller. For instance, I want to select from measure 128.1.3 to 136.1.3 and I want to do so using my CME VX8 or my bluetooth keyboard. Accessing particular parts of tracks without using a mouse saves a great deal of time and expedites the mixing/editing process.

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