7.0.14: static and crackling

l-rs · Post by **l-rs** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:06 pm

Hi,

I just upgraded my Live 6 tot Live 7 and was playing around with it.

I haven't changed anything to my setup, but I have a lot of noise, crackling when I play around with the new sidechaining feature.

Old sets play fine though, where I use non-native sidechaining vsts. Live 6 plays fine, same settings, same drivers et cetera.

My studio pc is brandnew: Core 2 Duo 3,0 GHz with 4 gigs, Windows XP SP3.

Soundcard is the ESI ESP1010 with latest drivers, ASIO 2.0. The CPU never goes over 10 percent, even during crackling. I'm pretty sure it's not a CPU issue.

I noticed that for instance Albino crackles just by playing pads (no sidechaining or anything); this was/is no problem in 6 either.

I've played around with the buffer but to no avail. It played fine with 6, why must upgrades always be so effing problematic?

I really like the way side chaining is handled in Live 7, but with crackling it's unusable...

jok · Post by **jok** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:45 pm

Hi I-rs,

do you use the latest version of Live 7 (7.0.14)? Does the crackling only appear in conjunction with 3rd party plug-ins?

Please contact support@ableton.com with your log.txt attached.

Best,
Jörg

bulo · Post by **bulo** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:55 pm

Problem here also since the upgrade from 6 to 7.
Everything eats lot more cpu than before in 7, but ALSO in 6!!
And now I even cannot play sets made before the upgrade.
I'm on a new laptop, fresh install...
Before uprgrading I was around 55% in the cpu bar with the Live 6-7 performance test... now it cannot be play (more than 140%)!!
What happened?
C2duo 2,16 ghz, 2.5 gb ram.
WTF?!!

jok · Post by **jok** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:03 pm

Hi Bulo,

the CPU usage in Live 7 is only slightly higher than Live 6, so I assume you are facing another problem.
Do you use 3rd party plug-ins in your set? If so, which ones? Please contact support@ableton.com with your full specs as described here:

http://www.ableton.com/pages/support_contact

Best,
Jörg

l-rs · Post by **l-rs** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:54 pm

I have sent stuff to support this weekend, so haven't heard anything back yet. I'll wait if they find anything. I use the latest version.

But while I was playing with 7, I had occasional spikes to over 100% in a newly built set, that didn't contain much (drums that influence a simple padlike sound in MinimogueVA).

Almost seemed like some kind of feedback in one of the plugins. But Albino crackles without any effects (native or not) so it might be a driver issue or something?

There aren't any newer drivers on ESI's site (and they work fine with 6). I had a backup of my Library before I let 7 upgrade it

so I could return to 7 without much trouble. So that's good.

With some renaming of Library folders I can switch between versions, but won't be able to solve this and move to 7 permanently without support I'm sure.

l-rs · Post by **l-rs** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:34 pm

Heard nothing from Ableton yet, not even a confirmation to my e-mail.

Been busy with tweaking settings in 7 (even though 6 works fine with the same drivers)... crackling still like hell, cpu never indicates more than 13 percent.

I have deleted the preferences file, played around with the buffer/latency (it's now at 64 with a superlow latency) but 7 crackles and is annoyingly unstable.

It now crashed with "A serious program error has occured. Live will shut down after this message box is closed".

If I'd had known what a world of hurt this 'upgrade' was I could have saved me the 99 dollar upgrade from 6 to 7! I have no guarantee whatsoever that 8, when it comes round, won't be as buggy and unusable as well.

Pretty disappointed, since I really like the intuitive and simple way side chaining works in 7. Also pretty annoying, I have one track with a cool bassline and pad in 7, that I now can't work on in 6... since they're incompatible formats.

"A more advanced version of Live" they call it I believe. HAHA.

Excuse my rant mode, I'll sign off now and go to the pub.

l-rs · Post by **l-rs** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:26 pm

Me again: the pub was great.

Anyway - I noticed a lot of people complaining of problems with 7.0.14 but "worked fine in 7.0.10" comments.

I scoured the internet for that version (there aren't any previous version on Albeton.com I could find?)

But long story short: no setup changes and NO problems in 7.0.10 with exactly the same set! No crackles or weirdness.

Had to unlock it with my 7-serial for some reason, but at least I know this is a) fixable and b) not something with my setup.

Hurrah, et cetera!

Now, weirdness... what was in 7.0.10 that got broken in 7.0.14?

harryem1 · Post by **harryem1** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:02 am

I get terribly loud static while playing an instrument -usually bass- through a PreSonous Inspire interface into a Live audio track. This happens quite a few minutes into the take, and the noise occurs when I play for the next 10 - 20 seconds. It happens with no effects on the track, as well as with effects I usually have other things going -drum clips etc.- but cpu usage usually around the 20% range, or less. But for these 20 seconds, it's as if I get the static rather than the instrument i.e. if I don't play, there's no static.

I'm fairly new to Live, so I'd appreciate any advice. I don't know if this fits into this conversation thread in that I'm on LIve 7.07. Had that problem already been solved?

Other facts: MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz / 2 G memory. I believe I've gotten the noise with guitar through the same interface. Sample rate: 44100; Buffer size: 128 samples.

Harry

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