Fade Bug - First Kick sounds different -SOLVED!-

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mr.adl
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Fade Bug - First Kick sounds different -SOLVED!-

Post by mr.adl » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:14 am

Edit:
Seems to be solved with Live 8.1.

Thanx so much for looking into this Abes!! :D



Hi Abes!
I started a thread here: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 24&start=0
and sombody nudged me to another thread where someone experienced the same problem, which i quote here:

when Fade is off in Preferences
- drag kick (i.e. 808 kick) into arrangement
- copy kick 4 times and select loop
- playback loop. The first kick sounds like there is a fade active.

- insert some silence before the first kick.
- playback from beginning of silence. Now the first kick sounds normal again.

So somehow when playing back from the beginning of the wave there is an audible fade added. Begin playback with some silence before the wave and the fade is gone.
I used Battery an a 909 Sample instead, where you can even hear the fade better, as the 909 has a punchier "cklick" to it, where the cut/fade is even more audible.

The thread i quoted from is here:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=115891

I was wondering if this is going to stay like that (me have to insert silence every time) or if this can be solved by the Abes (bugfix) as it seems just weird.
By the way: playing the very same clip in Sessionview sounds just fine! It starts when dragging it over to Arrangementview, than the first kick sounds faded.

Using Live 8.0.3 on Win XP SP3.
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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by longjohns » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:24 am

there appears to be a bugfix in this direction (or of the older threads) in 8.0.4b2

maybe you should check it out

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:32 am

longjohns wrote:there appears to be a bugfix in this direction (or of the older threads) in 8.0.4b2
maybe you should check it out
Thanx i saw that as well. You are refering to:
Exporting or consolidating audio would create a fade in in the resulting audio file
i guess, but this has nothing to do with exporting, only with dragging a clip from Session to Arrangementview.
Will still check it out.

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by Christian_E » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:54 pm

think you can diasble a funktion in prefrences where it creates fades to prevent clik in samples
PREF/REC-WARP-LAUNCH/ create fades on edgdes * disable

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:02 pm

Christian_E wrote:think you can diasble a funktion in prefrences where it creates fades to prevent clik in samples
PREF/REC-WARP-LAUNCH/ create fades on edgdes * disable

I know and tried that but still the first Kick sounds different. :cry:

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by Donnie » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:32 pm

Damn, i used to have this problem in ver 7. Looks like its still floating around...

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:34 pm

Donnie wrote:Damn, i used to have this problem in ver 7. Looks like its still floating around...
At least i am not the only one :)

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by d-track » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:49 pm

+1

annoying
have to insert time before the start....it can be fixed this way manually
but its a bug.

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:03 pm

Ok, Support is on it :D
Let´s hope they manage to fix it with the next update.

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by d-track » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:20 pm

in time :P

this bug present since live 6...

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:25 pm

d-track wrote:in time :P

this bug present since live 6...

Weird no body ever posted it or send it to the support.
They responded pretty fast and said they´ll send it over to the technic-team. They think it has something to do with the fades in arrangementview.

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by d-track » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:14 pm

nothing to do with... i suppose

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by Muhadieb » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:55 am

hi guyz i have the same probs...so you are not alone!
please send this annoying problem to the support team!
(for the moment i feel they have a lot to do and not every question become an answer!)
:wink:
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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by mr.adl » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:01 am

Muhadieb wrote:hi guyz i have the same probs...so you are not alone!
please send this annoying problem to the support team!
(for the moment i feel they have a lot to do and not every question become an answer!)
:wink:

As i said: i wrote to the support and there tech-team is on it.
I am really looking forward to get this bug fixed. :D

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Re: Fade Bug still present! (8.0.3) First Kick sounds different

Post by buddyzapfa » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:14 pm

I have had problems with the new warping engine in arrangement view. It creates little warbles and time variations even if I don't make any changes to the file other than loop it. I've taken to turning off warp as a work around but I hope this gets fixed soon.
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