Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

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DJ MachWave
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Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by DJ MachWave » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:36 pm

Hey guys, scanned through the forum but didnt see anything specifically for my issues...

I know Vista 64 isnt officially supported, but wanted to know if my problems have been encountered with anyone else. They seem to be getting worse every day.

So my issue 1) is that Live 8 doesnt like to respond on boot up. Its a crap shoot whether the program will open or not (literally like flipping a coin). It gives me the splash screen, goes white, and then freezes. I've let it sit there for a good 15 mins before and nothing, only to CTRL+ALT+DEL to end task. After that, i have to wait 10 + mins for it to actually go away in the task manager before it will even give me the start up screen again when i go to open it. I think this is a vista issue, but its so annoying.

My second issue, which just started happening, is when using NI's VST instruments. They load up fine when added to a midi track, and i can play them using my MPK49, but all of a sudden out of nowhere, the audio will go all crazy. Sounds like a lot of noise in the VST output, static or so. You can barely hear the original patch. Changing patches doesnt seem to do anything, nor changing parameters. I've found this with MASSIVE and FM8. The only way to solve the problem i've found is to close and reopen live (which can be tedious as per my first problem).

And the very last issue i've had is in the Live VST controls in the device section (that place where you add the VST parameters you want to control with a Controller). The assignment is not issue, but when i delete them, Live crashes after I delete the very last one. I'll have to submit a crash report for that one i guess.

Anyway, my system looks like this...

PC, Vista 64 Sp 2 (ugh, i hate vista)
8 MB ram, 2.86 GHz quad core processor
Live 8.04 i believe

M-Audio Fast Track Pro
Currently, i have the ASIO driver on the fast track pro set to shared mode, but i had similar issues when it was set to single application.
MPK49
APC40

I also have a wireless network card active.

Is anyone else experiencing issues similar to this? Are these all falling under the "Does not officially support vista 64" issue? Any input would be fantastic. I'm pretty patient with this kind of thing, but its starting to get really frustrating.

Thanks!

Rob

Mr F
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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by Mr F » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:35 am

DJ MachWave wrote: My second issue, which just started happening, is when using NI's VST instruments. They load up fine when added to a midi track, and i can play them using my MPK49, but all of a sudden out of nowhere, the audio will go all crazy. Sounds like a lot of noise in the VST output, static or so. You can barely hear the original patch. Changing patches doesnt seem to do anything, nor changing parameters. I've found this with MASSIVE and FM8. The only way to solve the problem i've found is to close and reopen live (which can be tedious as per my first problem).
I get the same problem with Massive when changing patches, can get to one or maybe even two patches ok but if I start seeking through the browser patch list the sound will become badly distorted and the only way I find to fix this is to restart Ableton (normally hangs doing that too).

My setup never normally crashes or does anything strange at all and I never get this with NI Maschine v1.03 which could sit there all day with no problems!

I have Massive v1.1.4
Helpful online tool: Music Calculator

Setup
Ableton Suite 8.2.5
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
2.83ghz Quad Core
6GB ram
RME Fireface 400 (Fw) 3.047
Novation Launchpad
Novation Remote SL MKII
NI Maschine 1.5
Focusrite Liquid Mix 3.0 (Firewire)

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by Atardecer » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:19 am

It may have something to do with the 8MB of RAM that you have :)
Nah just kiddin. Ive been having all sorts of problems with NI stuff since going to ver. 8 (and im on XP!). IK Multimedia also just doesnt want to play nice. Massive, FM8, Guitar Rig just completely crash my sets and are more or less unusable. If Im lucky i may be able to freeze a track and flatten before encountering problems. Wish i never touch 8, its a bad joke.

Jim

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by bendedavis » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:57 pm

I'm also running XP and have issues with NI and IK plugins. Is this also an issue for OS X users? GR3, Samplemoog and Sampletron seem to be the worst on my system with Live 8.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by Atardecer » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:32 pm

Funny that you mention Samlpemoog and Sampletron as they are 2 of the worst for me. More or less unusable in live 8 :(

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by bendedavis » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:03 pm

Atardecer wrote:Funny that you mention Samlpemoog and Sampletron as they are 2 of the worst for me. More or less unusable in live 8 :(
yep. I've started using Cubase 5 lately just because Live crashes so much with the instruments/effects I use most. I'm really considering OS X if it'll fix these issues and allow me to use Live without worrying about crashes.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by l3xh2k » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:27 pm

Macs crash too. The bugs are likely generic. I just had one myself. Simple test set, one MIDI track with Massive (AU), looking for rough edges with my shiny new Komplete box. I had just saved the set. Relaunch restored everything just fine.

The CrashReporter log:

there:CrashReporter georgn$ cat Live_2009-08-01-131113_there.crash
Process: Live [18809]
Path: /Applications/Live 8.0.4 OS X/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
Identifier: com.ableton.live
Version: 8.0.4 (8.0.4)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1045]

Date/Time: 2009-08-01 13:11:13.574 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.7 (9J61)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: B3547F46-1C14-430B-BC69-A2D57E938D35

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000000f
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9008659c CollectionItemRec::getTag() + 6
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9008603d FindItem(OpaqueCollection*, unsigned long, long, unsigned long*) + 111
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90085f93 GetCollectionItem + 39
3 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9314b9e6 GetTSMDocumentPropertyCore + 86
4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93151061 TSMGetDocumentProperty + 283
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93150f39 CopyTSMDocumentCFTypeProperty + 47
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9314bdf6 MyActivateTSMDocument + 555
7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9314bbc8 ActivateTSMDocument + 17
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x95323670 -[NSTSMInputContext _activate] + 395
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cd8dc +[NSInputContext currentInputContext] + 447
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cd701 +[NSInputContext updateInputContexts] + 52
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cd191 -[NSApplication updateWindows] + 117
12 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cd0bb _handleWindowsNeedUpdateNote + 67
13 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed0942 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 466
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed1c9c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 844
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed2c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
16 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9314428c RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93143fde ReceiveNextEventCommon + 175
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93143f19 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cbd0d _DPSNextEvent + 657
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x951cb5c0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x951c45fb -[NSApplication run] + 795
22 com.ableton.live 0x013bfcd6 AApplication::~AApplication() + 55940
23 com.ableton.live 0x013b0a19 AWindowBase::DoBeforePrepareClose() + 6477
24 com.ableton.live 0x00002ed2 0x1000 + 7890
25 com.ableton.live 0x00002df9 0x1000 + 7673

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x00399056 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 44954
2 com.ableton.live 0x004197a5 ASimpleCredentials::~ASimpleCredentials() + 2561
3 com.ableton.live 0x004197c9 ASimpleCredentials::~ASimpleCredentials() + 2597
4 com.ableton.live 0x00397131 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 36981
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x02842f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x02835477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0283907d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x028439ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a446e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cedcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x93a79b32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x00399056 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 44954
2 com.ableton.live 0x00041cff OBuffer::~OBuffer() + 35621
3 com.ableton.live 0x00397131 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 36981
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x00399056 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 44954
2 com.ableton.live 0x002ad1a7 OSampleProcessor::~OSampleProcessor() + 86527
3 com.ableton.live 0x00397131 OAutomation::EventPriority(long) const + 36981
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed204e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed2cd4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x1c9550fb AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 297
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed204e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed2c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x965fc5f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x965fc480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d3a6 mach_wait_until + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900d7917 MPDelayUntil + 39
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900d77ab Delay + 104
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1cced7e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1cd08a5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2e6 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cf2af _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966d0b33 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9660bbdf CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9660d79a CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9660bf3f HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9660bc43 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x965fc480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d3a6 mach_wait_until + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x967143ad nanosleep + 314
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9671426d usleep + 61
3 Massive.MusicDevice.component 0x422d5367 NI::SND::PresetManagerDB::scanForBackground(CppSQLite3DB&) + 535
4 Massive.MusicDevice.component 0x422d64df NI::SND::PresetManagerDB::run() + 303
5 Massive.MusicDevice.component 0x4219d1b6 NI::GP::Thread::execute(void*) + 54
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed204e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed2cd4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x90930e17 TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 123
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900bf057 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed204e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96ed2cd4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x90930f90 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 216
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900bf057 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966a446e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cedcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900c0e83 TSWaitOnCondition + 126
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9009fd6a TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900c0b00 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9093bf72 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900bf057 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cd9c6 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 15:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ec6fa select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 16:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2e6 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cf2af _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966d0b33 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9364fdcc -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9364fbe0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9364fb45 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x95231d20 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 753
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x93609e0d -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x936099b4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 17:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9669d2e6 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966cf2af _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966d0b33 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9009fd96 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900c0b00 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9093debc TFolderSizeTask::FolderSizeTaskProc(void*) + 104
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x900bf057 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce155 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x966ce012 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0000000f ebx: 0x93150f5a ecx: 0xbfffe9dc edx: 0x00000003
edi: 0x0000000f esi: 0x00000001 ebp: 0xbfffe8b8 esp: 0xbfffe8b8
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010207 eip: 0x9008659c cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x0000000f

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by l3xh2k » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:50 am

Another one, this time using the VST version of Massive. Single clip playing notes into Massive, switch presets and boom.

I won't bore you with the stack trace (I did post it to the NI forums).

Dunno where the blame should go but my Komplete install is less than 24 hours old and I'm not impressed.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by saintsaviour » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:30 pm

I've pretty much had it with Live 8 too. Live has gone from the most exciting to the most frustrating, unstable and unprofessional piece of software on the market. I'm going with Logic from here on in unless some momentous bug fixing is done in the next fortnight.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by l3xh2k » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:27 am

heh, oddly my frustration was aimed at NI since my recent crashes are a result of that software. Live on it's own has been pretty rock solid.

I haven't learned enough about my new Komplete setup to have become dependant on it...

Having been a software guy for my entire adult life I understand the issues and I really hope we make forward progress and limit the finger pointing.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by MikeyB59 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:49 am

That may be my issue, too. I haven't narrowed it down, but Live has been really crash happy with me. I'm on a Macbook Pro with 4 gig ram and OS 10.5.7. In general my computer is rock solid. Hardly anything crashes, but Live is now crashing every time I use it more than 10 minutes. Very frustrating. Previous versions have been among the more stable audio software I've used, but Live 8 and 8.04 in particular just sucks.

Mike

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by Atardecer » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:40 am

Hey all,

Ive been onto tech support about a few of things. They said that there is a known issue with IK Multimedia plugs not working with Live 8 properly. A workaround for the time being is to use a vst fx wrapper (the one by Acon Media works great here) to insert the offending plug into. Amplitube has been solid since using it this way, although I dont know of a plug that will wrap instruments? Also found that an older version of the Waves shell was causing problems - anything pre 5.7 is no good.

Jim

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by rmfought » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:07 am

Atardecer wrote:Hey all,

Ive been onto tech support about a few of things. They said that there is a known issue with IK Multimedia plugs not working with Live 8 properly. A workaround for the time being is to use a vst fx wrapper (the one by Acon Media works great here) to insert the offending plug into. Amplitube has been solid since using it this way, although I dont know of a plug that will wrap instruments? Also found that an older version of the Waves shell was causing problems - anything pre 5.7 is no good.

Jim
I can't even get the Acon Media wrapper to load Amplitube, it still crashes Live 8.1. This is very frustrating.

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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by madlab » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:34 am

MikeyB59 wrote:That may be my issue, too. I haven't narrowed it down, but Live has been really crash happy with me. I'm on a Macbook Pro with 4 gig ram and OS 10.5.7. In general my computer is rock solid. Hardly anything crashes, but Live is now crashing every time I use it more than 10 minutes. Very frustrating. Previous versions have been among the more stable audio software I've used, but Live 8 and 8.04 in particular just sucks.

Mike
Been using 8.04 on a macbook pro os 10.5.4 for a while now and it's been pretty stable.
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Skylark
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Re: Interesting Issues with Live and while using NI VSTs

Post by Skylark » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:37 pm

sounds like this program is becoming really crap.
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