[mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

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[mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by rutgermuller » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:28 pm

This sometimes happens.

Live 8.1.1, OS X Snow Leopard, Presonus Firebox

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Re: Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by Matthias » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:35 am

hi rutgermuller,

Sorry for the problems. To dig deeper, I'd need more informations:

- do you have a particular Live set with which the problem occurs?
- which Live build-in effects and instruments are contained in the set?
- does the set contain VST/AU-Plugins and if, which and which version?
- do you have attached MIDI hardware?

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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by taximouse » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:52 pm

This happens to me too. Live crashes everytime I try to select my audio interface in preface ( I have different interfaces at home in the eve and in the studio during the day, so I need to change the preface everytime I open a set)

After the crash I get a serious program error message, then when I reopen the set I'm able to select the interface 9 times out of ten. Sometimes it happens again tho.

Happens in every set. Only using ableton reverberations & eq
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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by Matthias » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:05 am

hi,

I tried on PC and MAC and changeing the sample rate worked fine for me. Maybe you could send me some crashlogs directly to mayrock@ableton.com. In your email, please reference this thread and include

a zip file containing all crashlogs (Crashlogs are located in <your home folder>/Library/Logs/CrashReporter (OS X 10.5) or <your home folder>/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports (OS X 10.6)), and
a zip file of the folder <your home folder>/Library/Preferences/Ableton.

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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by rutgermuller » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:02 pm

i tried to recreate this error

- Made a new set: added some audio files in the arrangement.

-Warped them a bit (complex pro).Started changing sample rates like 5 times.... and suddenly the speed of playback and the pitch start changing! 441.000 slowest 960.000 fastest.

-Plus another bug on top of that: sometimes the number of the sample rate doesn't change when the sample rate DOES change. Even when I go in and out preferences I still see the old number.

- Changed to beat warping in stead of complex pro to see if that is the problem and now I can't press play anymore!

- Saved project

- Closing Live won't work, keeps loading...

- Force quit

- Open project

- Changing sample rates works fine

- Change clips warping to Complex Pro

- CRASH!! (complex pro bug?)

- Opened Project again

- Changed rates with complex pro clips.... after changing it for like 5 times the playback speed screws up

- Tested it with beat warping... same problem. So complex pro is not the main problem!

Maybe my presonus Firebox is the main issue here. (OS X Snow Leopard, Live 8, Firebox)

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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by Matthias » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:27 pm

hi rutgermuller,

thank you very much for your feedback.

I tried on PC as you described which worked fine. I will check ASAP on a MAC + presonus Firebox.

Btw. did you get crashreports? This would be a great help.

best wishes,
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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by Matthias » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:52 pm

hi rutgermuller,

I warped a clip in arranger using complex pro and beats on OSX 10.4.11 with Presonus FireBox + latest drivers. I changed the sample rate and latency error compensation in preferences quite often. Also switch to and from beats<->complex pro. This did not crash Live. It would really help us if you would seek for the crashlogs OSX creates when Live crashes.

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Re: [mma] Changing sample rate when audio is playing crash

Post by friend_kami » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:44 pm

yeah so it's an old topic but as it turns out, i have a similar bug.
although my interface starts to crackle up and bugout completely when editing/consolidating samples on random occasions, and switching the samplerate to something else, then back again solves it. this only happens with live so it's obviously not my interface.

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