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 Post subject: Lion - hangs on initailizing and midi ports missing
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:31 am 

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Hi, I recently purchased a new macbook and Ableton 8. Today I've been having problems loading the software. It gets stuck on initializing software for about 10 minutes and once it finally loads, Live docent recognize my midi controller.

Im using a DIGI 002 and an axiom 49 midi controller.

I had the software running fine with the sound card and controller for a couple weeks up until today.

Ive moved all my 3rd party plugins to another location, deleted preferences, updated to 8.2.7, deleted the 002 audio driver repaired the library, repaired the disk permissions etc. and nothing seems to be working

I think an installation of isotope RX might have caused this but i uninstalled that and had no luck, and it still doesn't explain why Its not seeing any midi devices.


Im running Lion 10.7.2

any help would be greatly appreciated


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 Post subject: Re: Lion - hangs on initailizing and midi ports missing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:34 am 

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so frustrated. i had to force quit to get an error report. does anyone know what this gibberish means?

Process: Live [393]
Path: /Applications/Live 8.2.7/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
Architecture: i386
UID: 501

Thread 0x1533
User stack:
11 ??? (in Live) [0x2cf9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x2dd2]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3436372 (in Live) [0x14e0004]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3448594 (in Live) [0x14e2fc2]
11 -[NSApplication run] + 911 (in AppKit) [0x90049c22]
11 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 113 (in AppKit) [0x9004d8ab]
11 _DPSNextEvent + 1301 (in AppKit) [0x9004e2af]
11 AEProcessAppleEvent + 103 (in HIToolbox) [0x90bc2fea]
11 aeProcessAppleEvent + 253 (in AE) [0x976efa54]
11 _ZL25dispatchEventAndSendReplyPK6AEDescPS_ + 43 (in AE) [0x976efb67]
11 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 202 (in AE) [0x97706045]
11 _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 234 (in Foundation) [0x97ddeda1]
11 -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 476 (in Foundation) [0x97ddefcd]
11 __-[NSAppleEventManager setEventHandler:andSelector:forEventClass:andEventID:]_block_invoke_1 + 121 (in Foundation) [0x97de021a]
11 -[NSObject performSelector:withObject:withObject:] + 72 (in CoreFoundation) [0x912ee548]
11 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 377 (in AppKit) [0x9005122e]
11 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpenEvent:] + 277 (in AppKit) [0x90051518]
11 -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 84 (in AppKit) [0x900529f8]
11 -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 259 (in AppKit) [0x90052d05]
11 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 92 (in Foundation) [0x97da6136]
11 _CFXNotificationPost + 2776 (in CoreFoundation) [0x912a0d78]
11 ___CFXNotificationPost_block_invoke_1 + 275 (in CoreFoundation) [0x912d5ff3]
11 __-[NSNotificationCenter addObserver:selector:name:object:]_block_invoke_1 + 49 (in Foundation) [0x97dbaf49]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3496603 (in Live) [0x14eeb4b]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3439730 (in Live) [0x14e0d22]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3438878 (in Live) [0x14e09ce]
11 std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument() + 257332 (in Live) [0x16ab020]
11 std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument() + 208176 (in Live) [0x169f01c]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4148940 (in Live) [0x158df7c]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4116989 (in Live) [0x15862ad]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x406cc6]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x406803]
11 std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument() + 239175 (in Live) [0x16a6933]
11 std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument() + 237813 (in Live) [0x16a63e1]
11 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 761793 (in Live) [0x1253071]
11 std::range_error::~range_error() + 2402019 (in Live) [0x110f78f]
11 std::range_error::~range_error() + 2399483 (in Live) [0x110eda7]
11 ??? (in Live) [0xce59cf]
11 ??? (in Live) [0xced730]
11 ??? (in Live) [0xcecb7c]
11 MIDIClientCreate + 191 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a3ff98]
11 pthread_once + 76 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7487]
11 MIDIProcess::InitializeOnce() + 50 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a421ff]
11 MIDIProcess::Initialize() + 287 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a42b1b]
11 MIDIClient_RegisterProcess + 188 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a0fdcb]
11 mach_msg_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc22]
Kernel stack:
11 ipc_mqueue_receive_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002158b0]

Thread 0x1539 DispatchQueue 1701273966
User stack:
11 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53 (in libdispatch.dylib) [0x987df6a7]
11 kevent + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ef90a]
Kernel stack:
11 kqueue_scan + 416 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff8000537d40]

Thread 0x153d
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x44b94d]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x44b929]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1553
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1554
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1555
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1556
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1557
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1558
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x1559
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x6d6dd]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x155a
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x3ae92f]
11 ??? (in Live) [0x2f1703]
11 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc5e]
Kernel stack:
11 semaphore_wait_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002345c0]

Thread 0x155b
User stack:
11 thread_start + 34 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ffb6de]
11 _pthread_start + 335 (in libsystem_c.dylib) [0x98ff7ed9]
11 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 123 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a1ff69]
11 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a2059f]
11 MIDIProcess::MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 24 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a42912]
11 MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 259 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a41f8b]
11 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101 (in CoreMIDI) [0x2a1efcb]
11 mach_msg_trap + 10 (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x959ecc22]
Kernel stack:
11 ipc_mqueue_receive_continue + 0 (in mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002158b0]

Binary Images:
0x1000 - 0x20cdff0 com.ableton.live 8.2.7 (2011-12-02_7e2883476d) (8.2.7 (2011-12-02_7e2883476d)) <9EE27A42-62AA-068E-3D9E-F4EC0B8B4857> /Applications/Live 8.2.7/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
0x2a0f000 - 0x2a5bffb com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 1.8 (42) <67FE17BA-C921-3D2D-AAC5-B5E9083CE004> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI
0x90044000 - 0x90ad2ffe com.apple.AppKit 6.7.2 (1138.23) <ADFA8D70-601E-3B5C-96FD-F45F52055CC8> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
0x90bb1000 - 0x90ef1ffb com.apple.HIToolbox 1.8 (???) <DFED9BD0-E142-397B-BE16-16EBCF3CE1EB> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x91251000 - 0x91427fe3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.7.1 (635.15) <AC9F6462-6315-3D89-8075-D048DB4DBF7E> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x959d6000 - 0x959f4ff7 libsystem_kernel.dylib ??? (???) <124A6CE3-3934-3994-9D0A-E85A0C0BF082> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x976ec000 - 0x97722ff7 com.apple.AE 527.7 (527.7) <7BAFBF18-3997-3656-9823-FD3B455056A4> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
0x97da3000 - 0x980adff3 com.apple.Foundation 6.7.1 (833.20) <B5092554-485A-3A7D-904B-B04B1EE5C50C> /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
0x987de000 - 0x987ecfff libdispatch.dylib ??? (???) <B50C62AD-0B5B-34C3-A491-ECFD72ED505E> /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib
0x98f9b000 - 0x99066fff libsystem_c.dylib ??? (???) <1B0A12B3-DAFA-31E2-8F82-E98D620E4D72> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib


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 Post subject: Re: Lion - hangs on initailizing and midi ports missing
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:24 pm 

Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:00 pm
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Location: Ableton Headquarter Berlin
Hi VikVersa,

I'm not sure if this issue has been resolved in the meantime.

But these steps might help:

Live uses the Mac's system MIDI functionality. When there are no MIDI ports available in Live than there's obviously a problem with MIDI on system level.

Please try this:
- make sure Live isn't running
- open the Audio-MIDI-Setup utility. It can be found here: /Applications/Utilities/
- in the Audio-MIDI-Setup open the “MIDI Studio” window
- click into the configuration chooser and select “New Configuration…”
- close the Audio MIDI Setup
- start Live again


Furthermore, there's a known problem currently with a Digidesign MIDI driver which is obviously not fully Lion compatible and causes all MIDI applications to hang while trying to initialize this driver. The system's Audio-MIDI-Setup is for example also affected (/Applications/Utilities/).

To solve this issue please install the latest Pro Tools 9 or Pro Tools 10 update.
If this doesn't help please remove the Digidesign MIDI driver DigiDioMidiDriver.plugin from this folder: Macintosh HD/Library/Audio/MIDI Drivers/

Please contact Avid regarding a Lion compatible MIDI driver for your Pro Tools hardware.

Let me know if this works!

Best regards,

Marian Kalus
Ableton Technical Support

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