keyboard doesnt respond after 4.1.2 update using z3ta+ synth

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keyboard doesnt respond after 4.1.2 update using z3ta+ synth

Post by timothyallan » Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:18 am

I have the z3ta+ vst v 1.4 on a channel. I'll open the synth up, move some knobs around with the mouse, then close the synth. After doing that, Live will not respond to any keyboard commands i.e. spacebar, ctrl-M, or anything, until i minimize Live and restore it. Then it all works as before.

It's almost like Z3ta hijacks the keyboard commands to Live, but this problem did not occur until i installed the 4.1.2 update yesterday.

-Tim

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Post by commuter » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:54 pm

I can confirm that, but it doesn't happen only with Z3ta, and it was there with 4,1, but it doesn't happen everytime and it's really hard to reproduce...
Sometimes, i lost all the keyboard and mouse wheel focus, the spacebar doesn't stop live anymore and the only way to get back control is to minimize ..It happen on the pc, but i've also experienced that on my Imac..
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Post by timothyallan » Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:14 pm

both platforms hey? Well, mine is doing it all the time, all i do is follow the steps in my first post and voila! Im almost positive it never did it in 4.1, but if happened to you then maybe i lucked out :)

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Post by nebulae » Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:08 pm

I have also had this issue in numerous versions of Live. I can recreate it EVERYTIME with Z3ta on Live 4.1.2 on PC. None of the PC keys will work. The only way to get around it is to remove the instance of Z3ta, then load some other vsti in the same channel, and then open the new synth's window and then close it. This seems to bring keyboard functionality back to Live.

Until this is fixed, I would highly advise against using any of these "keyboard stealing" synths in a live situation. Also, I would recommend that we build a list of synths that causes this problem and the platforms on which this happens.

Thanks, everyone.

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Post by timothyallan » Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:18 pm

nebulae, you dont have to remove z3ta to get control back, simply minimize live, and restore it and you'll be back to normal... until you use z3ta again ;)

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Post by nebulae » Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:36 pm

Thanks for the tip. I've confirmed that this work. Still should be fixed, eh? :)

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Post by Alex » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:35 pm

Hi folks,

I can reproduce this with the demo version of z3ta+. if it happens you have to bring Live in the background and then again in the foreground to get the keys to work.
I will keep you informed about this problem.

regards,
Alex

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