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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:11 pm 

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Stromkraft wrote:
pistacchioso wrote:
Having Ableton Live help you staying in key, choose correct chords is essential to the program, I think.


Po, you don't need to stay in key. Po, there are no so called "correct chords" that anyone but you can decide on. Correct is what sounds good to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:32 pm 

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Hopefully, there is someone from Ableton which is closely monitoring the Feature Request section of the forum. So far, I haven't seen much indication, interaction on their part, that Ableton is reading our suggestions. I am use to forums such as Musescore.org's where developers are actively involved in the forum discussions.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:10 pm 

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I was so frustrated today editing dozens of MIDI clips in a song today, changing the key of a song...

2018 and How are scales STILL not implemented in the MIDI note editor?


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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm 

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timotholt wrote:
I was so frustrated today editing dozens of MIDI clips in a song today, changing the key of a song...

2018 and How are scales STILL not implemented in the MIDI note editor?


Scales are implemented as a MIDI Effect.

You don't even need to edit a single note.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:19 pm 

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this looks so invasive that seems like a whole new software would solve this problem better.

programmers out there, maybe its your turn to create "the next Ableton Live".

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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:26 pm 

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People can build them already with MIDI Effect Racks and Chains with "Show Names in MIDI Editor" option.

In fact, this nice person already did:

https://michaelphines.github.io/scale-f ... ct-device/

Download them, unzip and drop one of them in a empty MIDI Track, then create a MIDI Clip and check the Piano Roll.


It will have the ONLY the scale notes, with nice named notes, he even added a nice "♦" to mark them.


90% of the feature requests in this forum can be done already on Live.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Scale and Chord Tracks to Improve Composing
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:42 pm 

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lucaspottersky wrote:
this looks so invasive that seems like a whole new software would solve this problem better.

programmers out there, maybe its your turn to create "the next Ableton Live".


What's "invasive"? The Scale MIDI effect?

What weird word to use. Especially since scales on the Piano Roll fit the word "invasive" better, they change and restrict much more than the Scale MIDI Effect.

That suggestion was for "timotholt", who was changing the scale and key of pre-existing MIDI sequences.

Scale is perfect for that, as you don't even need to edit anything, just plunk it before the instrument, way easier than selecting and right-clicking stuff, can also change the scale on the fly, both using classic scale presets or creating new unique scales.

Plus the underrated simple option of turning on and off the MIDI Effects, a much faster way of AB'ing scales and keys than selecting and right-clicking stuff in other DAWs.


For people that are creating new MIDI sequences, then, again, Michael Phines' work will help them:

https://michaelphines.github.io/scale-f ... ct-device/


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