Trim function

willi · Post by **willi** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:15 am

Hallo!
I would like a little function like the 'reverse-function' to allow trimming unneeded parts of audio, thus avoiding the use of external editors.
..somebody probably posted something similar but i'm too lazy to read all rhe millions of topics

ciao!!

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:22 am

look up "consolidation" in your manual.

willi · Post by **willi** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:33 pm

Yes thats right. On the other side it could be useful to have a little button like the 'reverse button' in the clip view to quickly trim the existing audio file at the loop start and end points. But there is no doubt that i can live very well with the 'consolidation' !! Cheers.

conny · Post by **conny** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:08 am

I dont understand why consolidation is not active in session.
Easy to duplicate clip slots and colsolidate them.
Stealing snippets of sound and word from films, it is tedious to drag them all to arrangemant for consolidating.
// C

16 BIT · Post by **16 BIT** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:27 pm

am wrote:look up "consolidation" in your manual.

Yeh thats a great suggestion

tell me. What daw out there doesnt offer the simplest and one of the most used audio editing functions there is?

consolidating is a work around and is not the answer.

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:36 pm

16 BIT wrote:
am wrote:look up "consolidation" in your manual.
Yeh thats a great suggestion

tell me. What daw out there doesnt offer the simplest and one of the most used audio editing functions there is?

consolidating is a work around and is not the answer.

live doesn't...

now you tell me... which daw out there does non-destructive editing, where you can use the same audio file in many different ways at the same time?

what i'm getting at is that you don't even need to trim audio files if you don't want to.... and if you do... then its as easy to consolidate.

conny · Post by **conny** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:44 pm

I think am is quite right on this. Trimming is built in as non destuctive editing of clips, and that's far better, you don't need copies of files with specific trimming all over the drive.
Consolidating my be handy to make a permanent "trim", like putting the reversed tail of a sample in "x-fade" with the original.

// C

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:03 pm

now you tell me... which daw out there does non-destructive editing, where you can use the same audio file in many different ways at the same time?

>>>They pretty much all do, it's called ghost copies... <<<

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:52 pm

Tarekith wrote:now you tell me... which daw out there does non-destructive editing, where you can use the same audio file in many different ways at the same time?

>>>They pretty much all do, it's called ghost copies... <<<

ummm... no.

"different ways".... ghost copies do the "same way"

16 BIT · Post by **16 BIT** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:37 pm

am wrote:
16 BIT wrote:
am wrote:look up "consolidation" in your manual.

now you tell me... which daw out there does non-destructive editing, where you can use the same audio file in many different ways at the same time?

what i'm getting at is that you don't even need to trim audio files if you don't want to.... and if you do... then its as easy to consolidate.

Pro Tools. You can destructively edit or not on any audiofile as pro tools will automatically make a copy of it without changing the original. Logic and Sx can do this I think?

let me give you an example of why I think it is nescessary.

last week I was importing a songs individual audio files froom a cubase session. The track was around 6 mins and had around 20 seperate audio files all 6 mins long. Many of them had dead space up to around 5 mins and some others had sporadic sounds or FX with 90% of it being dead space.

It seemed to me pointless to keep all this dead space. The cubase self contaned folder was around 300mb, while my new Ableton Live one was around 1.8gb.

Sure I could drag the clip start area, Ctrl e, then consolidate.

But wouldnt it just be easier to hit a trim function in cases like this.

While there can be arguments against having a trim function, it serves little purpose not to have it imo.

What do you think?

conny · Post by **conny** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:03 pm

OK, if a trim function i Live works just like setting the start and end to the first/last non silent position (or with some finer logic) - that's fine. When done, consolidate if the positions looks fine.
I would like the later step to be user triggered, though.
I think I would even appreciate it in this way!

// C