layered midi editing

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Funmichi
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layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:21 am

One thing I really miss in Live is the layered midi editing like in Pro Tools, Studio One or Bitwig. NOT as in Cubase or Logic where it is solved bad. You can see as shadows in the background MIDI notes of other clips which play with the clip you are editing. With a little sidebar you can set which clips you want to see as shadows in the background or even edit it together with a second option.

Funmichi
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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:46 am

Really, nobody has a feedback for this suggestion?
This feature is one of the main features of bitwig and I dont know to buy Live or Bitwig...

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by regretfullySaid » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:57 am

No, I'd love it. Switching between midi clips can be a PITA.
I'm waiting for Bitwig, looks like it has it at least partly.

Ideally what would be wicked is if you had the midi clip view with it's transparency as you describe (and in other DAWS) and you can just use a key modifier to switch through them, like CMD/CTRL - Scroll wheel.
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Funmichi
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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:42 am

I would buy Ableton immediately if it would have layered MIDI editing like Studio One or Bitwig. Ableton has many nice features but not one like this.

But in this case I m going to wait for Bitwig and look into it.

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by aleenajoe » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:02 am

I think it would accept layered MIDI alteration like Studio One or Bitwig. Ableton has abounding nice appearance but not one like this.

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:46 pm

I dont lika a multitrack midi editing like logic or cubase because you can just edit them together. But important is to use tracks as ghost tracks which are visible as shadows in the background. You cannot edit these shadows, just the current track you are working on.

This was important to mention because there is a big difference between standard multitrack editing and layered editing. The first one which you have in logic and cubase has many disadvantages, the second one is the clue.

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by alb13 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:54 am

Something like this?

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Funmichi
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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:57 pm

Also clip based layered editing and the possibility to decide which MIDI tracks I want so see or which I want to see AND edit!


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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:54 pm

Christian Witt wrote:+1
i will fight for this.

I say it one more time: Im going to buy Ableton if this feature is available also clip-based!
There are many features I love about Ableton like the Racks and the nice Max for Live Devices.

If not, Im going to buy Bitwig in the middle of next year.


@alb13:

Yes, BUT with the selection if just visible or both visible and editable.
Also clip-based layered MIDI Editing!


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Re: layered midi editing

Post by _ceone » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:57 pm

+1 we definitely need this feature :)
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Re: layered midi editing

Post by HamHat » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:23 am

This feature seems to be in pretty high demand, so i'm sure by Ableton X they will include it. All tho if I have to pay for it, i'll probably move over to Bitwig. Seems this type of feature should be standard.

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Funmichi » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:03 pm

Yes bitwig has some features which ableton miss and which are basic...

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Re: layered midi editing

Post by moscom_musik » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:22 am

+1. for 9.2?
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Re: layered midi editing

Post by Sternenlicht » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:13 pm

+1 !!! it should not be so hard to program it.
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