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 Post subject: Frame based grid in arrangement view.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:17 pm 

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It's in the title.
We seriously need this, the fps time ruler is almost useless without this option.

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 Post subject: Re: Frame based grid in arrangement view.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:40 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Frame based grid in arrangement view.
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:51 pm 

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I've made a suggestion here that I think would be a great solution to this problem: instead of either/or frame based / BPM based grid, why not both?

https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193322

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 Post subject: Re: Frame based grid in arrangement view.
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:33 pm 

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Of course, both.
I wasn't asking Ableton to change the BPM grid to a frame one. Just the ability to flip between.
We can display the time ruler in fps, but not the grid. It doesn't make sense.
Regarding your idea, I think there's no need for complicated things like "clips synced to video FPS, and FX synced to BPM". The grid is just a timing display, and entering a fps grid display wouldn't change the BPM btw.
(I didn't get your point with the padlock.)

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 Post subject: Re: Frame based grid in arrangement view.
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:03 pm 

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The idea is that if you had a separate FPS-based timeline for the video and whatever audio tracks you want there, you could alter the project tempo without cocking up the timing of clips that you've already synced to the video. As of now, the only way to avoid this, is to finish everything that is not to be affected by tempo changes and render the tracks as unwarped stems that span the entire video clip. With two timelines between which tracks could be moved as needed, you'd be a lot freer to experiment with tempo changes.

The point with the padlock was that the marker position could only be adjusted in one view at a time. Dropping a marker in the FPS timeline and have it show up at its relative position in the BPM timeline would make it a lot easier to sync the music up.

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