Advanced MIDI Controller Mapping - Include Range

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Advanced MIDI Controller Mapping - Include Range

Post by teejay » Mon May 23, 2005 7:47 am

What i would like to see is - being able to assign a range that will affect the specific controller. (for eg: 40 - 100) instead of the standard 0-128.

I know some midi boards allow this to be done on their custon editing softwares (eg: novation) but having this built into LIVE makes it more universal and easier.

This would give very creative control over the controllers without actually worying about overshooting when turning the knobs/faders.

Hope this makes sense.

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Post by Tarekith » Mon May 23, 2005 11:12 am

I totally agree. It'd be nice to have Live include some of the midi processing ideas that you can do with things like Bidule.

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Tue May 24, 2005 2:21 am

Bump. Key ranges would also be nice.

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Re: Advanced MIDI Controller Mapping - Include Range

Post by montrealbreaks » Tue May 24, 2005 2:48 am

teejay wrote:What i would like to see is - being able to assign a range that will affect the specific controller. (for eg: 40 - 100) instead of the standard 0-128.

I know some midi boards allow this to be done on their custon editing softwares (eg: novation) but having this built into LIVE makes it more universal and easier.

This would give very creative control over the controllers without actually worying about overshooting when turning the knobs/faders.

Hope this makes sense.
I enjoy this feature on my ReMote, everybody should have the same fun... I agree with this. In fact, it's the only reason I bought it as opposed to a cheaper controller...

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Post by elemental » Tue May 24, 2005 1:09 pm

yes please

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Post by smart1123 » Tue May 24, 2005 4:50 pm

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Post by teejay » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:49 am

please please please tell me this has been implemented in 5???

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Post by Kodama » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:34 pm

Man I hope so!

I have some other small things I would like to see, but this was the last biggie not covered by L5.


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Assigning one controller to several parameters

Post by Korhan » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:08 am

I totally agree with the controller range feature. I would also love to see these added:

- Assigning one controller to more than one parameter. E.g. cc#3 controlling filter cutoff and grain delay spray.
- Controller mapping, e.g. one controller going 0-127 on one parameter while going 127-0 on another, hence allowing crossfades between parameters - filter cutoff increases while grain delay spray decreases.

Combined with the requested controller ranges, these features would carry the "live" aspect of LIVE to a higher level, making it an excellent tool for live improvisation and experimental music. They would also enable users to get more out of a single MIDI controller.

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Post by mettkea » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:47 pm

I agree as well, so I can stop using MIDI-OX!

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Post by Kodama » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:12 pm

Come one Robert, Bernd, Frank, don't be shy :D
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Post by teejay » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:43 am

I want this thing SOO bad that I would hang myself if Ableton didnt include it in 5, and we would have to wait till the next big update for it :lol:

Guys, seriously, i suggest everyone who is interested in this to post up/email do watever it takes to have Ableton take notice!

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Post by Kodama » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:40 pm

I'm sure they have noticed, but I don't think we can influence Live 5.

It's either there or it's not.

I'm sure it's one of the next features coming up, but as we know Ableton won't add more features until the next version in 1-2 years.


So, I sure hope it's in 5, but I don't think we'll know until the beta.


It only makes sense to have this, it's not like Operator or Simpler are going to have this basic funtionality without Live doing it for them.

I also hope they fixed the issue of only publishing the first ~100 VST parameters so we have something to map to because many VSTs have their most important parameters (filter cutoff, etc..) listed way down the list...


So anyway, here's hoping!

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Post by Korhan » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:02 pm

I think a piece of software like Live, which has already implemented quite experimental features like follow rules for clip triggering (clearly a step towards algorithmic composition) must have a much better MIDI controller mapping. At least better than the previous state, which is as primitive as it can be. It is impossible for me to assign the Kaosspad for MIDI control without tweaking the kaosspad MIDI settings everytime, because Live does not allow me to enter controller mapping manually.

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Post by Joost » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:05 pm

I also support this request fully

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