Stromkraft wrote:Not at all. Depends on taste and knowledge. There are so many producers, apparently, that assume repetitive means you should repeat the exact same clips in exactly the same way for it to be valid. I suggest this is boring. The best repetitions are slightly different and imperfect, strikingly often also when they appear not to be.
Agree, but you can achieve this in many ways, not necessarily by moving the notes in a MIDI clip. Why do you want to impose a way of working on others? Who are you to judge someone's preference for repetitive - in your opinion! - music? For a lot of people all electronic music is a repetitive "boom boom boom", for others rock is repetitive with the same song structures (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, break, chorus, etc.) and the same instruments being used.
Alias / ghost / linked clips is a tool like any other and people shouldn't be judged for wanting to use it.
Stromkraft wrote:What's with you? "I was just sayin'" means what I said is an option to consider. How is that not obvious? Since when is pointing out suggestions for approaches that can work right now, a suggestion that functionality that is requested for any reason should be invalid?
Because advising people that want to use linked clips to "have clips playing the same parts a little differently each time" is not a workaround or an "approach that can work right now".
It's like someone was asking for how to achieve particular bass sound and you'd advise them to use piano instead, because it is readily available.
How is THAT not obvious?
Stromkraft wrote:As I've already pointed out I own and use AliasClips and it's straightforward to use. I just wrote that above, Didn't read that part, did you? Or what are you disagreeing with? J Garcia aka JGJP is not a "a random guy on Internet". He's a skilled MFL developer that makes great products. Maybe you shoud try and make something similar yourself in MFL if it's so dead easy?
I'm not in anyway trying to belittle the achievements and knowledge of that guy, just meant "random guy" in a sense of "someone outside of Ableton". For all I know he's smarter and knows Max4Live better than most Ableton employees, but it still doesn't make him any less "random" as opposed to the people who are supposed to professionally develop Live. I also never said it's easy to write something like this.
Lastly, no it's not easy to use because you need separate instance of it for each group of clips. So, eg. if I have a bass line consisting of 8 different clips, which I mix and match to - guess what?! - introduce variation to my bass line over time, then I need to have 8 instances in that track alone. On top of that there will be drums, synth lines, some effects, etc. that might need several instances more. This can get messy very quickly.
Instead, if it was implemented natively with some consistent naming / visual scheme or icons, with added browser to manage all that, it would be more user-friendly. Again, I'm not criticising the J. Garcia for what he did, because I can understand there are constraints to what can be achieved via Max4Live; I'm criticising Ableton for not implementing that seemingly obvious and popular feature.
Stromkraft wrote:No-one is questioning Alias functionality wouldn't be great for many users natively in Live, so please stop pretending this to be true.
I've lost you here...