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Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:10 am
by serotonic
I know this has been brought up before...but I feel like I need to speak my mind:

Alias clips especially in arrange (and equally as useful in session) view...you know what I'm talking about, you make a change in one clip and all the "child/alias" clips get that change. Like Logic, and every other DAW on the planet has had for a zillion years.

Ableton, no disrespect but we have all been waiting 10 years for this...and seriously it is LONG overdue. We are not asking for some bizarre, obscure, "auto tune knob per channel" feature or something, this is really, really, basic kit.

This one has literally brought me to tears on more than one occasion. I would trade 300 other features, new and old, for this one basic feature.

It won't be confusing for anybody, it is a perfectly well understood paradigm within the music DAW community...

I really don't care that it is hard to implement, sorry guys, but it is time to focus and get it done...

Please, please, my friends and colleagues, if you see this, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO +1 me on this and get some more momentum going on this one.

Thanks!

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:00 pm
by Idonotlikebroccoli
Yes!

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:39 pm
by moscom_musik
+1

Brilliant in Renoise for example ;)

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:29 pm
by snakedogman
yes I keep wishing for this every time I'm in the arrange page!

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:01 am
by Michael Hatsis
would save a ton of time.

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:52 am
by warrenwarren
+1 million

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:33 am
by xbitz
+1

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:43 pm
by Markus Weldon
Would love to see this addressed +1

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:56 am
by jestermgee
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Whatever a big number is!!!

I'd also like to have this somehow tied to the original clip that may have been used to sequence the arrangement so that you can simply change the clip and have it change in arrangement (possibly a context menu to copy changes to arrangement). Always seemed counter intuitive to me to have clips that could create your arrangement but were not linked in any way.

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:08 pm
by Garry Knight
+1

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:40 pm
by bootykowski
If you have Max4Live, check out the new device bei J.Garcia. It works for midi clips only, but it´s working very well.

Thank you, J.Garcia!

http://jgarcia.hungry.jp/project/alias-clips/

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:53 pm
by LFO8
bootykowski wrote:If you have Max4Live, check out the new device bei J.Garcia. It works for midi clips only, but it´s working very well.

Thank you, J.Garcia!

http://jgarcia.hungry.jp/project/alias-clips/

That's real good work but not like the way it works in Logic. With Logic you only have to Shift-Option any midi clip and boom, you have an alias clip that exactly mirrors the original clip. More convenient imo.

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:44 pm
by snakedogman
yes pretty please. This basic functionality is looooooong overdue.

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:12 pm
by Jdudeo
LFO8 wrote:
bootykowski wrote:If you have Max4Live, check out the new device bei J.Garcia. It works for midi clips only, but it´s working very well.

Thank you, J.Garcia!

http://jgarcia.hungry.jp/project/alias-clips/

That's real good work but not like the way it works in Logic. With Logic you only have to Shift-Option any midi clip and boom, you have an alias clip that exactly mirrors the original clip. More convenient imo.
LFO8,

I'm the creator of the device, thanks for checking it out. Unfortunately it's not possible with Max for Live to have such a convenient function, but if you just add a clip once to the group all the copies you make of that clip will also be Aliases. I tried to make it as convenient as possible but I guess we could always wait for Ableton to listen to our cries and implement it, maybe they'll also add support for aftertouch, allow multiple MIDI channels within tracks, put a refresh button on the browser, have the scroll wheel do anything beyond the most basic functionality etc.. One can always dream...

Re: Alias/Ghost/Mirror Clips Petition!

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:10 pm
by rydan
Yup Alias/Ghost clips would be nice...