Make Operator much more usable

[chapelier fou]

Add negative detune.
Add a global envelope.
Add a 2nd LFO. And crosspatching LFOs.
Route LFOs to any destination.

[Thomasch]

I'd like to add some points to chapelier fours wishlist:
Envelope Sections:
-Add slope parameters to the envelopestages of the ADSR envelopes.
-Add more envelope types (complex multistage envelopes with temposync/timesync option)
Oscillator Section:
-Add more oscillators and algorithms (8 oscillators instead of the 4 we have now)
-Enhance the oscillators (samples, wavetables, granular etc).
Maybe release it as a separate instrument and leave the Operator instrument as it is for compatibility reasons.

[chapelier fou]

+1 for the envelopes.
Regarding oscs, 4 seems to be enough to me, though.

[[jur]]

+ 1000

[Angstrom]

I'd like one of the operator oscillators to be switchable to "audio in" or alternatively to have a sidechain input UI like the effect devices - that way we could route one Operator into another or use a sample as a modulator. Etc.

[chapelier fou]

Great suggestion Angstrom.

[downfader]

I'd like one of the operator oscillators to be switchable to "audio in" or alternatively to have a sidechain input UI like the effect devices - that way we could route one Operator into another or use a sample as a modulator. Etc.

This.

Also agree with the other ideas. It seems a good idea to me to be able to add in or delete operators in a chain, too, or perhaps to be able to route/split/mix them somehow.

The basic design of this thing hasnt changed much in a few years. Would be very cool if it could be given an overhaul.

[skttrbrn]

All great suggestions!

With the addition of four more oscillators, I'd love to see some sort of compatibility with DX7 presets (or a way to convert/approximate them) akin to the functionality of FM8.

[Idonotlikebroccoli]

Audio in would be so cool!

[NoSonic822]

or add a pitch tracker like in the vocoder....so you can use it like a theremin

ie. use operator as the audio output but have some sort of envelope follower that would track midi and or audio input

[j hubez]

It would be nice if, when using the 'low' and 'high' modes in the LFO section, the knob displayed rate in Hz, rather than the practically useless 1-127 value range. Currently you can only see the corresponding Hz rate in the status bar at the bottom while clicking/hovering on the knob. This is better than nothing, but it is not great for some situations, like when trying to map multiple Hz rate parameters from different devices to a macro knob.

I understand that it may be this way because the Rate<Key function acts as a multiplier on the 1-127 range to produce the final Hz value. It would be ideal if the Hz value could be calculated and displayed on the knob in real time. And personally I don't get much use out of the Rate<Key function (and it's something that can theoretically always be automated in note by note), so if it had to be one or the other, I'd take the Hz display.

[chapelier fou]

Please please please !!!!!

The lack of negative detune is just currently ruining something i was working on :

Simply be able to play keys over a DJ set.

The only workaround is to add a Pitch Midi FX (-1st) and then pitch up. That's insanely unintuitive.

[NoSonic822]

Add a global envelope

thats what the "time" knob is for...it lets you control the global envelope.

[chapelier fou]

Not really.
I mean a global envelope for the final stage VCA. With the "time" knob, you cannot for instance, adjust only the Release for all operators.

[downfader]

Not really.
I mean a global envelope for the final stage VCA. With the "time" knob, you cannot for instance, adjust only the Release for all operators.

I think this is a worthwhile idea. Time adjustment is OK but it could be more intricate.

I also use Operator in stacked modes and layer up in Instrument Racks to get the effect I want. I'm sure with 2-4 extra operators the whole thing could become more efficient for both composer and the dreaded CPU.