LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

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Ironlion
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LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Fri May 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Hi everyone,

I've seen people looking for this feature as far back as 7 years ago and am surprised this hasn't been implemented because it's so necessary to live musicians: auto punch out of clip recording in session view.

As a guitar player and piano player, I want (need) to be able to set a GQ value, press a controller button to start recording in a clip slot, and then be able to play my loop content - and then have ableton automatically stop recording after say, 2 bars (or 1 or 4 or whatever the GQ is) - because I don't have a third hand to punch out with!

Bump this if you know what I'm talking about!

Thank you.

Ironlion
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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:16 am

Hey Ableton, this is REALLY important!!!

I've added some details to this post which is essentially calling for the same thing:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=183603

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Emanresu0891 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:51 am

I agree.

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:43 pm

Emanresu0891 wrote:I agree.
Thanks Emanresu0891.

Ableton, I don't mean to be rude, but I'm RINGING THE BELL on this. This is a piece of functionality that people have been looking for for the better part of a decade. You're really close with your looper. Just make those parameters available for clip slot recording. It's so obvious (and powerful).

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by H20nly » Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:39 pm

i think they hoped that Looper would be the answer to this sort of thing.

i do all my punch ins/outs in Arrange view.

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:13 pm

H20nly wrote:i think they hoped that Looper would be the answer to this sort of thing.

i do all my punch ins/outs in Arrange view.
Well, the looper certainly is on the right track. They just need to take it one step further and build those same parameters into the clip slots. I know that they'd have to map out the functionality and that there is most likely some complexity that I'm not seeing yet, but here's an idea of what it would look like:

(I've also made a post about a large GQ clock that can easily be seen on stage and works well with this clip slot looping viewtopic.php?f=3&t=221680)

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by bhud45 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:02 pm

I agree with this.
Been wondering why it wasnt a feature since I crossed over from hardware to Ableton.

Ironlion
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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:42 pm

bhud45 wrote:I agree with this.
Been wondering why it wasnt a feature since I crossed over from hardware to Ableton.
Thanks bhud45. I've gone ahead and created a mockup that shows all the functionality I'm suggesting and how it works together to give musicians the ability to dynamically build loop scenes on stage without having to stare at a computer screen (buzz kill for the audience and whole performance process):

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:47 am

By the way Ableton if you ever look at this forum: here's a spontaneous example (unpolished) of the type of music I'm trying to create on stage and why I'm asking for this functionality:

https://soundcloud.com/nicollj/session- ... s-4-bar-gq

It's just impossible to stay connected to the audience and build this stuff at the same time. Auto punch out of clip slot recording would fix that...

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:40 am

8O

that must sound amazing at the venue.

yeah, I can see where no punch out could interfere with the layering in a meaningful way.

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by driven » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:09 pm

Yes please. Another voice to the rabble.

Rabble, I say! RABBLE!

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:37 am

Hi everyone,

With Ableton's help (thanks Matt), I was able to find this M4L device which solves a good portion of this issue:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... stComments

Here are the issues:

1. You have to have ableton suite ($600) to be able to use M4L devices.
2. The device is not entirely working. But it is working pretty well with apparently only one major issue. I'm talking with the developer of that device and seeing if I can support him in getting that issue worked out. If we can do that I think that I'll have what I need.

If anyone knows of a M4L developer with advanced skills who might be able to help with this project, please let me know! Thanks!


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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by Ironlion » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:29 pm

Valiumdupeuple wrote:There's also this device, Session Looper...
Thank God!

Thanks Valiumdupeuple!!! This is so awesome.

So far, using that device, I'm able to get the looping process down to two button presses: select track, start recording. That's great and I can work with that. And I'm going to see if I can possible combine those and get it down to a single button press.

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Re: LIVE musicians need Auto Punch Out of clip recording

Post by H20nly » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:02 pm

^ nice

*bookmark*

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